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Election Denial and Wisconsin's 2026 Races for Governor, AG
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Candidates speak to a push by President Donald Trump in administering the midterms.
The candidates for governor and attorney general in Wisconsin speak to ongoing pushes by President Donald Trump for a larger federal role in administering the 2026 midterms as voters hit the polls.
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Election Denial and Wisconsin's 2026 Races for Governor, AG
Clip: Season 2500 Episode 2516 | 6m 15sVideo has Closed Captions
The candidates for governor and attorney general in Wisconsin speak to ongoing pushes by President Donald Trump for a larger federal role in administering the 2026 midterms as voters hit the polls.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipDonald Trump is not on the ballot this fall, but he is still trying to shape the outcome of the election, not only through campaigning but through executive orders that would dramatically reshape how we vote and who can vote "Here& Now".
Senior political reporter Zac Schultz has more on how Wisconsin's candidates for office are responding to these efforts.
>> On January 6th, 2021, Republican Congressman Tom Tiffany was in the U.S.
Capitol as Congress prepared to certify the electoral votes that showed Joe Biden had won the presidential election.
Tiffany voted against certifying the results from Pennsylvania and Arizona, part of a Trump plan to invalidate the election.
Outside, a violent mob egged on by Trump himself, stormed the Capitol, forcing lawmakers to seek safety.
Eventually, order was restored and Congress certified the election.
Nearly six years later.
The lies about rampant voter fraud and rigged elections still circulate, pushed by Trump himself at a rally in Eau Claire last June.
>> They rigged the election.
When I turned, the election was totally rigged.
It was.
>> Trump's grievances over 2020 led to efforts by his administration to have the federal government take over elections and authority.
Congress has delegated to the states.
First, he demanded states hand over voting lists, including confidential data like Social Security numbers.
Wisconsin, like many states, refused.
Republicans in Congress tried to pass the Save Act, which would create a proof of citizenship requirement so strict that critics estimated millions of legal voters would not be able to meet it.
That bill passed the House with Tiffany's support, but stalled in the Senate.
In March, Trump issued an executive order that would have required the U.S.
Postal Service to create a list of which voters were eligible to send an absentee ballot through the mail, a process that would have disenfranchized millions of voters.
>> Also, the ballots, the voting, the mail in ballots so crooked they send millions of ballots out all over the place.
If you're a Democrat, sometimes you get 6 or 7.
>> Wisconsins Democratic Attorney General Josh Kaul joined a lawsuit that fought that order, something he sees as a key point in his election against Republican Eric Toney.
>> What I think is fundamental and a big difference between Democratic AG in this office and a Republican AG is, are we going to stand up for the rights of the people of our state?
Are we standing up for the interests of the people of the state, or are we just going to cave to the Trump administration on issue the matter is Eric Toney would not stand up to the Trump administration the way I have.
It wouldn't even be close.
>> Across the country.
Zero Republican attorneys general joined that lawsuit.
We asked Eric Toney if he would have joined the case.
So yes or no.
Would you have Wisconsin be a part of this case against the Postal Service rules?
>> So what I can say is I would be defending the ability for people to vote early.
And one of the things I've been very careful on, I rarely comment on the different lawsuits that are out there, because I want to make sure we're working with the great attorneys that we have at our Department of Justice, making these decisions based on the facts and the law.
And if in that conversation, we believe that that's unconstitutional, I would absolutely join a lawsuit like that to make sure that we're protecting people's rights to vote early here in Wisconsin.
>> We interviewed gubernatorial candidates Tom Tiffany and David Crowley as the country was waiting for the U.S.
Supreme Court to decide if the rule could move forward.
Tiffany would not say if he supported the rule change.
>> I mean, that's going to be up to the courts.
It is in the courts at this point, and they're going to decide what role is going to be able to be played there.
All I know is I have confidence in clerks across the state of Wisconsin.
There's hundreds of them, and I've worked with them in northern Wisconsin.
Regardless of what rules are put before them, they always go out and do their job.
And I appreciate the work that they do.
>> Crowley says.
That fits a larger pattern for Tiffany.
>> As the governor, it is our job to make sure that we are protecting democracy, protecting people's ability to cast their ballot and to, to, to instill dignity.
Right?
We have free and fair elections here in the state of Wisconsin, and I'm always going to sing and yell at the mountaintops about how I believe in our election system.
But you're not going to get that with Congressman Tom Tiffany.
I mean, we're talking about someone who voted against certifying the 2020 election for Wisconsin voters, someone who's not willing to stand up and say Donald Trump actually lost the 2020 election.
>> The website Election deniers.org tracks candidates for office that voted against certifying election results or spread conspiracies about election fraud.
They list Tom Tiffany, citing his votes on January 6th, 2021.
Tiffany denies being an election denier.
Do you have complete confidence that our elections in Wisconsin are free and fair and legitimate?
>> I believe that our elections are going to be done in that fashion.
I mean, it should be easy to vote, but hard to cheat.
Now, there's been a couple instances.
You look at Madison, they had the city of Madison had to fire their clerk two years ago because she failed to count 197 ballots.
Green Bay has had a problem.
Two elections in a row with their clerk.
I mean, we have to be vigilant also, but I just know the hundreds of clerks across the state of Wisconsin.
They do the very best job that they can.
>> Outside the specter of election conspiracies about voter fraud or concerns about a federal takeover of elections.
Both candidates encourage voters to have a plan to vote.
>> Go out and get your ballot in, because we know that the mail us mail is not what it used to be.
I mean, it's a number of years ago that our U.S.
mail service has been in decline.
So make sure you figure out how you're going to vote.
And remember, at two weeks before the election, you can go vote in person.
So that is an option also.
>> But I want to encourage everybody.
1 if you're going to mail in your ballot, do it early, do it quickly, and do it as soon as possible.
And if you feel like you're getting close to that deadline, go visit your municipal clerk and drop that.
Drop your ballot off at your at your
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