[PIANO INTRO] - THERE HE IS.

YEP.

- GET THE NET FOR YOU.

YOU KNOW, RICKY, WHEN IT FIRST WENT DOWN THERE, I THOUGHT IT WAS A PINFISH, AND THEN IT-- - THEY WERE PROBABLY FOLLOWING IT.

LITTLE TROUT COME UP AND TOOK IT FROM HIM.

- I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG HE IS, BUT... - WELL, LET'S SEE.

- UH-OH.

- JUST WANTED TO GO DEEP, DIDN'T IT?

BRING HIM HOME.

- GET THAT BILLY BAY CORK OUT OF THE WATER RIGHT THERE.

- YEP.

- GET THE NET.

HE'S HOLDING HIS GROUND.

- YEP.

YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT THAT BIG.

IT'S JUST WHEN THEY GET IN THIS CURRENT, THEY JUST BOW THEIR SIDES, YOU KNOW?

- OH, YEAH, HE'S A PRETTY FISH, THOUGH.

- I GOT YOUR HOOK.

READY?

- YEP.

HE'S A BROWN.

- LISTEN.

YOU HEAR HIM DRUMMING?

[LIGHT INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ - [MALE ANNOUNCER] THE "CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL" IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY: - [FEMALE ANNOUNCER] "WILDLIFE IN NORTH CAROLINA MAGAZINE."

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WE FISH FROM FRESH TO SALTWATER.

WE PROVIDE FISHING SUPPLIES AND ADVICE TO EVERY TYPE OF ANGLER.

FOR ALL YOUR FISHING NEEDS, EZ BAIT & TACKLE.

AND BY CONTRIBUTIONS FROM PBS NORTH CAROLINA VIEWERS LIKE YOU.

- HELLO, AND WELCOME TO THE CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL.

WELL, TODAY'S PROGRAM'S GOING TO TAKE US TO THE NEW RIVER, AND, JOE, WE'RE FISHING FOR SPECKLED TROUT.

- THAT'S RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO DO IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WE NORMALLY DO HERE ON THE SHOW.

WE NORMALLY--MOST OF THE TIME WITH SPECKLED TROUT WE'RE GOING ARTIFICIAL, BUT TODAY WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOU LIVE SHRIMP FISHING FOR 'EM AND GOING WITH CAPTAIN RICKY KELLUM WHO KNOWS THAT NEW RIVER QUITE WELL, AND HE SPECIALIZES IN SPECKLED TROUT PRETTY MUCH THE YEAR-ROUND, BUT IN THE SUMMERTIME HE GOES TO LIVE BAIT, AND YOU'LL SEE WHY HE CATCHES FISH.

- THAT LIVE BAIT'S GOING TO MAKE FOR A GOOD GEAR TIME TODAY.

- AND HE'LL SHOW US HOW HE RIGS UP FISHING UNDER CORK, BUT HE DOES IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN NORMAL, SO STAY TUNED, AND HE'LL SHOW YOU HOW TO RIG UP FOR 'EM.

- AND THEN DONNA'S GOT A RECIPE TODAY: FISH ON A BUN.

WE CALL IT THE FISH SLIDER.

- IT'S A FISH SLIDER RECIPE.

IF YOU'VE NEVER HAD IT BEFORE, TUNE IN, AND SHE'LL TELL YOU HOW TO DO IT.

- WELL, WE GOT A LOT GOING ON HERE TODAY ON THE CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL.

- WELL, RICKY, IT'S FIRST WEEK OF JUNE, AND WE'RE OUT HERE TODAY AFTER SOME SPECKLED TROUT WITH LIVE SHRIMP.

- BEAUTIFUL SHRIMP.

- HERE AT THE NEW RIVER, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD AT THIS TIME, ALL SUMMER LONG AROUND THIS STRUCTURE, THESE BRIDGES, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'VE BEEN ON SOME FISH HERE.

- YEAH, IT'S BEEN GOOD.

- LET'S GET THESE BAITS IN THE WATER, SEE IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING GOING.

- ALL RIGHT.

SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN.

MY SHRIMP'S READY.

THAT'S DANGEROUS RIGHT THERE.

ALL RIGHT, TROUT.

FIRST CAST.

COME ON.

THERE HE IS.

FIRST ONE.

- THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

- YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD FISH.

- I'LL GET THE NET.

- HE'S HOLDING HIS GROUND NOW.

- I'M GETTING THAT CURRENT, AND TURN THAT BACK TO YOU.

- YEAH, IT AIN'T MUCH CURRENT.

THAT'S ALL TROUT RIGHT THERE.

UH-HUH.

THAT WAKES ME UP AT NIGHT.

THAT IS GOOD.

- THAT DIDN'T TAKE LONG, DID IT?

- THAT'S A PRETTY FISH RIGHT THERE.

- OOH, THAT IS A PRETTY FISH.

HE SEES THAT BUOY.

- I KNOW YOU'RE THE GUIDE, BUT DON'T LET HIM GET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT BUOY.

- HE AIN'T GOING AROUND THAT BUOY ON HIS BEST DAY.

- OH, MAN, RICKY.

- ISN'T THE PRETTY?

- GOD, WHAT A PRETTY FISH.

- OKAY.

LET ME GET HIS TEETH OUT.

- THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

- LITTLE SNAGGLETOOTH IN THE NET.

WOW, RICKY.

HE'S FIVE POUNDS EASY.

- HE'S PRETTY.

GOT HIM HOOKED GOOD TOO WHERE HE'S NOT HURTING AT ALL.

- YEAH, HE HIT ONE TIME.

YOU CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE WHEN IT'S A TROUT OR A PINFISH.

- PUTTING IT OUT.

- LOOK AT HIM.

HE'S MAD ABOUT IT.

HE DON'T LIKE-- - TAKE A LOOK AT HIM.

IT'S PROBABLY MORE THAN LIKELY A HER.

- THIS AIN'T THE COMFORTS OF HOME.

I'M GOING TO GET HIM RIGHT THERE.

- SHE'S BEAUTIFUL, ISN'T SHE?

THERE'S PURPLE ON THE HEAD RIGHT HERE.

- THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL FISH.

LORD DOES PRETTY WORK.

- ABSOLUTELY.

HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING.

- HE KNOWS THERE'S A PRETTIER SALTWATER FISH IN THIS WORLD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.

- THERE'S NOT.

LET'S PUT HIM BACK.

TROUT.

THERE HE GOES.

BEAUTIFUL.

ALL RIGHT, THAT WAS THE FIRST SHRIMP.

WELL, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

THAT WAS A GOOD ONE, DEAN.

- RICKY, THERE YOU GO.

- HE AIN'T AS PRETTY AS THE LAST ONE, BUT I'LL TAKE IT FOR NUMBER TWO, RIGHT IN A ROW.

- OH, THAT'S A PRETTY FISH.

ALL RIGHTY.

ALL RIGHT, DEAN.

- THAT'S A PRETTY--AT LEAST 2, 2 1/2 POUND FISH, RICKY.

- RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT TIDE.

- YOU KNOW WE'RE KIND OF ON A SLACK TIDE RIGHT NOW.

IT'S JUST STARTING TO TURN, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE FISH ARE AROUND EVEN WHEN THE TIDE'S SLACK, BUT WHEN IT STARTS MOVING, THINGS ARE GOING TO PICK UP, I FEEL SURE.

- HE'S A PRETTY ONE.

- YEP.

- PRETTY FAT THING.

- LET'S SEE.

HE KNOWS WHERE HOME IS.

- THERE HE IS.

YEP.

- GET THE NET FOR YOU.

- YOU KNOW, RICKY, WHEN IT FIRST WENT DOWN THERE, I THOUGHT IT WAS A PINFISH, AND THEN IT-- - THEY WERE PROBABLY FOLLOWING IT.

LITTLE TROUT COME UP AND TOOK IT FROM HIM.

- I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG HE IS, BUT... - WELL, LET'S SEE.

- UH-OH.

- JUST WANTED TO GO DEEP, DIDN'T IT?

BRING HIM HOME.

- GET THAT BILLY BAY CORK OUT OF THE WATER RIGHT THERE.

- YEP.

- GET THE NET.

HE'S HOLDING HIS GROUND.

- YEP.

YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT THAT BIG.

IT'S JUST WHEN THEY GET IN THIS CURRENT, THEY JUST BOW THEIR SIDES, YOU KNOW?

- OH, YEAH, HE'S A PRETTY FISH, THOUGH.

- I GOT YOUR HOOK.

READY?

- YEP.

- HE'S A BROWN.

- LISTEN.

YOU HEAR HIM DRUMMING?

GRUNTING?

- I THINK HE SAID, "PUT ME BACK IN THE WATER."

- MM-HMM.

- THAT'S A PRETTY ONE.

YEAH, HE'S TALKING TO YOU.

HE SAID HE THINKS HE KNOWS YOU.

[laughs] - WHAT?

PUT YOU BACK?

OKAY.

RICKY, WHEN WE'RE FISHING FOR THESE SPECKLED TROUT AROUND THIS STRUCTURE LIKE THIS AND THE TIDE STARTS TO MOVE ALONG PRETTY WELL, I NOTICE THE BITE ALWAYS PICKS UP.

WHY DO YOU THINK THAT HAPPENS WHEN THE TIDE IS ACTIVE?

- WELL, I THINK THE BAIT-- THE BAIT STARTS MOVING FOR SURE.

I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE THE GLASS MINNOWS AND STUFF STARTING TO WORK AROUND, AND WE'RE COVERING 100 YARDS AT THE TIME, YOU KNOW.

THE SHRIMP'S COVERING 100 YARDS OF DRIFT.

YOU GET TWO LINES COVERING THAT KIND OF TERRITORY, YOU KNOW, THAT TROUT STANDS A WHOLE LOT BETTER CHANCE OF IT COVERING AND JUST SITTING IN ONE SPOT, YOU KNOW?

- YEAH, I GUESS IT MAKES IT EASIER TOO WHEN THEY'RE ON A FEED TO-- - AND THAT SHRIMP, HE'S SUSPENDING, YOU KNOW, 2 OR 3 FOOT ABOVE THE BOTTOM.

HE JUST OUT THERE JUST SWIMMING AROUND, ALL BY HIS LONESOME.

EASY PREY.

JUST EASY PREY FOR THAT TROUT.

HE DON'T EVEN SECOND-GUESS IT.

HE SWALLOWS IT.

- YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS-- I'VE ALWAYS HAD MY BEST LUCK IT SEEMS LIKE ON THE FOLLOWING TIDE.

I GUESS YOU CAN CATCH THEM ON EITHER WAY.

- YEAH, BUT FOLLOWING IS THE BEST FOR ME TOO.

THAT'S A GOOD FISH.

HE'S SAW IT TOO.

DEAN, REEL THAT OTHER LINE IN FOR ME.

OH, HE'S SERIOUS.

- TELL YOU WHAT, GET IN THAT CURRENT.

- PRETTY LITTLE SIZE.

- PRETTY FISH.

IT'S A PRETTY FISH.

THE OLD LIVE SHRIMP GOT HIM.

HE THOUGHT IT WAS REAL.

HE THOUGHT IT WAS FOR REAL.

RIGHT THERE IN THE CORNER, DIDN'T HURT HIM AT ALL.

- PRETTY FISH.

- YES, THEY ARE.

LOOK AT THE COLORS ON THAT THING.

- MM.

- PURPLE RIGHT THERE.

- YEP, BEAUTIFUL.

- YEAH, IT IS.

- NICE FISH, RICKY.

- IT'S ABOUT TIME.

PROBABLY DEAN WILL CATCH ONE IN A MINUTE.

[light instrumental music] ♪ ♪ - HE'S NOT--AIN'T NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT FISH.

- HE'S NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE CONDITION HE'S IN RIGHT NOW.

- NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT FISH.

- THAT'S A PRETTY TROUT.

- YEAH, IT'S A PRETTY TROUT.

MIGHTY PRETTY.

WE'LL TAKE THEM ALL DAY LONG, BUDDY.

YEAH, WE'LL TAKE THOSE ALL DAY LONG, DEAN.

LITTLE BIT OF SEAWEED.

- HERE.

DON'T THROW YOUR NET IN THE WATER.

- DON'T BITE ME, BOY.

- LIKE YOU DID YOUR PLIERS.

- LOOK AT THE SPOTS ON THAT FISH.

- OH, GOD.

HE'S MARKED UP PRETTY, ISN'T HE?

- YES, SIR.

IT'S A PRETTY FISH, AIN'T IT, BUDDY?

HE IS PRETTY.

- DEAN PHILLIPS CAUGHT THAT FISH.

- YES, HE DID.

YOU THE MAN, DEAN.

- HAND ME A SHRIMP THERE, WILL YOU?

- YES, SIR.

IF I KEEP MINE OUT OF THE WATER, YOU'LL PROBABLY CATCH ONE.

MINE'S GONE NOW.

WHERE'S MY ROD AT?

- IT'S FLOATING WAY BACK THERE WHERE YOU TOLD ME NOT TO FLOAT ABOVE.

- WELL, I WAS BUSY HELPING YOU.

THAT'S A GOOD FISH, DEAN.

HEARD THAT DRAG TALKING.

- HE'S HOLDING HIS GROUND NOW.

- THEY KNOW HOW TO USE THAT CURRENT.

- OH, HE'S LEANING ON IT.

PRETTY FISH.

- YEAH, THAT'S A NICE FISH.

- PRETTY FISH.

HE HIT THAT THING RIGHT BEHIND THE BOAT.

- HE DID, DIDN'T HE?

HE WAS CLOSE.

- RIGHT IN THE PROP WASH. - ALL RIGHT, DEAN, HE HIT IT GOOD.

HE'S JUST IT RIGHT THERE.

SINCE YOU THREW MY PLIERS OUT OF THE BOAT... - YEAH, WELL, THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.

- IT'S A SOLID THREE.

PRETTY.

- YEAH, THAT IS A PRETTY FISH.

- VERY PRETTY, PRETTY.

HE HIT CLOSE TO THE BOAT.

YEAH, IT IS.

LET'S CATCH ANOTHER ONE.

- NOW THAT ONE PARTICIPATED AS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO PARTICIPATE.

- I'M STARTING TO LIKE THAT.

DRIFT'S GETTING BETTER.

- YEP.

JUST LIKE YOU PREDICTED.

- I'M STARTING TO GET ON MY "A" GAME.

[laughs] - YEP.

GET A LITTLE MORE CURRENT, FISH GET A LITTLE MORE ACTIVE.

RICKY, I NOTICED THAT YOU NORMALLY CATCH MOST OF YOUR OWN SHRIMP FOR BAIT.

OH.

THERE'S A BAD FISH.

- GET HIM ON.

- WHEN DO YOU NORMALLY CATCH YOUR-- - FISH.

[laughs] CAN YOU TALK AND REEL AT THE SAME TIME?

- YOU CATCH MOST OF YOUR SHRIMP UP IN THE CREEKS AROUND HERE?

- YEAH, BEGINNING ABOUT JUNE, YOU CAN EXPECT TO CATCH THEM IF THE WEATHER'S PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, ON THE SAME PATTERN.

- I'VE GOT ONE RIGHT HERE THAT WANTED THIS SHRIMP, SO WE'LL-- - LET ME GET THE NET THEN.

- YEAH.

ABSOLUTELY.

- THAT WAS--HE TOOK IT LIKE HE MEANT BUSINESS.

- I THINK HE'S GOT A LITTLE MORE MEAT ON HIM.

- HE'S HOLDING IT, ISN'T HE?

- YEAH, HE'S HOLDING IT.

- BRING HIM ON UP HERE.

LET ME SEE HIM.

HE AIN'T GOING TO SCARE ME, IS HE?

- GOT A LITTLE BIT OF SHOULDERS ON HIM THAN THOSE LAST TWO I CAUGHT.

- OH, YES, SIR.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

THAT'S A PRETTY FISH.

OH, MAN.

THAT'S PRETTY WORK, DEAN.

- THANK YOU.

- I TAUGHT YOU WELL, HUH?

- WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.

YOU PUT THE SHRIMP OUT THERE AND DANGLE HIM AROUND.

- HE'S GOT SOME TEETH, BUT-- - HE'S BEAUTIFUL.

- HE DIDN'T BITE ME; MY PLIERS ARE NO LONGER WITH US.

THAT'S A PRETTY FISH.

IT'S A PRETTY FISH, DEAN.

- RICKY, I'M NOT COUNTING, BUT I THINK YOU'RE BEHIND.

- YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

YOU'RE NOT COUNTING.

- [laughs] WOULD YOU MIND PUTTING A SHRIMP ON MY HOOK FOR ME WHILE YOU'RE BACK THERE?

- I'M GONNA ACT LIKE I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU NOW.

- [laughs] AND DON'T GIVE ME ONE OF THOSE LITTLE ONES EITHER, PLEASE.

- IT'S ALL I GOT, IS LITTLE ONES.

- THAT'S ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT-- AH!

NEED THE NET?

- NO, HE AIN'T AS BIG AS YOURS.

I DIDN'T WANT TO HURT YOUR FEELINGS.

- WELL, OF COURSE HE'S NOT AS BIG AS MINE.

- I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, IT MIGHT BE YOURS.

- WAIT A MINUTE.

HE'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN YOU THOUGHT.

- I WILL TAKE HIM.

- NICE FISH.

- YES, HE IS.

- DEAN, THAT WASN'T SIX FOOT BEHIND THE BOAT.

- I KNOW IT.

- ALL RIGHT, DON'T BITE ME.

- THEY'RE CLOSE.

I MEAN THEY'RE ACTUALLY MOVING UP-- SEEMS LIKE THE STRONGER THE CURRENT RUNS, THE TIGHTER THEY'RE GETTING TO THE STRUCTURE.

- YEAH, HE'S WANTING TO GET IN THE LIVE WELL TO EAT THE REST OF THE SHRIMP.

THAT'S A PRETTY... - PRETTY FISH.

- IT IS.

FAT, HEALTHY THING.

- NICE.

- ALL RIGHT, DEAN.

- HOW ABOUT HANDING ME A SHRIMP OUT OF THAT, PARTNER?

- NO PROBLEM.

WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THE LAST ONE I GAVE YOU?

- TALKING ABOUT THAT LITTLE MIDGET YOU GAVE ME?

- HERE.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE BIGGEST ONE IN THERE SO YOU WON'T WHINE.

- MM, MM, MM.

WHAT YOU GOT?

IS IT A TROUT?

- I AIN'T SEEM HIM YET.

OF COURSE IT'S A TROUT.

HELP ME, MAN; HAND ME THAT NET RIGHT THERE.

- NEVER MIND.

- HAND ME THAT NET.

OH, LORD.

COME ON UP HERE.

BRING HIM TO ME.

IF YOU CAN.

YEAH, HE'S PRETTY.

- YEAH, HE IS.

RIGHT IN THE ROOF OF THE MOUTH.

THAT'S WHY YOU GOT TO KIND OF SET THE HOOK A LITTLE BIT.

IT DOESN'T HURT HIM, BUT-- YEAH, THAT'S SOLID, BUDDY.

LOOK AT THAT PURPLE ON HIS HEAD.

- YEAH, THAT'S WHEN THE SUN HITS THAT JUST RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THAT PURPLE.

GOOD JOB, DEAN.

BEAUTIFUL.

- THANK YOU.

GO ON BACK OUT THERE AND GROW UP.

I WANT YOU TO BE 13 POUNDS WHEN I SEE YOU AGAIN.

- I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE MAN THE WAY YOU SET THE HOOK.

I TELL YOU WHAT, HE DIDN'T PLAY.

- NO, THEY HIT THAT SHRIMP, THEY MEAN BUSINESS WHEN THEY HIT HIM.

- JOE, THAT WAS A GOOD DAY OF FISHING, BUT THE VERY FIRST FISH, NICE SIZE.

- IT REALLY WAS.

WE DIDN'T WEIGHT IT, BUT IT WAS CLOSE TO FIVE POUNDS PROBABLY, AND, YEAH, IT STARTED THE MORNING OFF REALLY WELL.

OF COURSE WE DIDN'T CATCH ANYTHING QUITE THAT BIG THE REST OF THE DAY, BUT THEY WERE ALL GOOD SOLID FISH, AND HE LIKES TO USE LIVE SHRIMP IN THE SUMMERTIME BECAUSE A LOT OF HIS CLIENTS IN THE SUMMERTIME ARE NOT USED TO FISHING ARTIFICIALS, AND SO HE KIND OF SWITCHES DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS WHEN THE SHRIMP ARE AVAILABLE, AND HE CATCHES A LOT OF FISH.

- ALL RIGHT, LET'S TALK MORE ABOUT HOW TO CATCH THOSE FISH.

LET'S GO TO GEAR TIME.

[light instrumental music] ♪ ♪ - RICKY, THAT WAS A GREAT DAY.

- IT WAS.

IT WAS A GOOD DAY.

- GOT THAT REAL GOOD FISH RIGHT OUT OF THE SHOOT THIS MORNING, ABOUT FIVE POUNDS, AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST SOMETHING FUN ABOUT FISHING WITH THE FLOAT.

- IT IS.

IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITES.

I LOVE ARTIFICIAL, BUT LIVE BAITS RIGHT THERE WIN, ESPECIALLY FOR BIG FISH.

- THIS TIME OF YEAR, TOO, IT'S JUST HARD TO BEAT.

- YEAH.

- WE FOUND SOME GOOD STRUCTURES, AND WE GOT ON SOME FISH.

- SHRIMP, I MEAN THEY'RE NOT GREAT BIG.

THEY DON'T NEED TO BE.

I MEAN, THIS IS PROBABLY 3-INCH SHRIMP.

THE WAY I HOOK THEM IS JUST RIGHT UP UNDER THE HORN, AND THAT SHRIMP WILL SIT THERE, AND HE'LL SWIM ALL DAY LONG, IF HE HAD ALL DAY, BUT A TROUT'S NOT GOING TO GIVE HIM MUCH TIME.

- RIGHT.

- LITTLE LEGS JUST CREEPING AROUND, AND GIVE YOU THAT NATURAL DRIFT WITH THE CURRENT.

JUST LOOKS FOR REAL TO THE TROUT, BUT THE HOOK I'M USING-- KIND OF GOT FOND TO THAT NUMBER FOUR GAMAKATSU TWO "X."

SOME PEOPLE USE THE FOUR, BUT THAT TWO "X" WILL HOLD JUST ABOUT ANY FISH YOU CAN GET AHOLD OF, IF YOU'RE PLAYING THEM RIGHT.

- THAT SMALLER WIRE'S EASIER TO GET INTO THE SHRIMP TOO.

- YEAH, DOESN'T DO AS MUCH DAMAGE, AND IT'S A NUMBER FOUR GAMAKATSU, AND I'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY 18 INCHES OF 25-POUND MONOFILAMENT, AND THEN A LITTLE 20-POUND BARREL SWIVEL, AND WHAT I USE ON THIS BILLY BOY BOBBER MADE BY BETTS NETS IS A 3 1/2 INCH NON-WEIGHTED.

YOU WANT YOUR WEIGHT UNDER IT.

SO THAT WEIGHT WILL STAND THAT FLOAT UP.

IF IT HITS THE BOTTOM, YOU'LL SEE YOUR CORK KIND OF TEETERING IT.

THAT'S TELLING YOU NEED TO SHALLOW UP, BUT THAT'S A QUARTER OUNCE.

SETS THAT CORK UP JUST PERFECT, AND YOU CAN SEE ANYTHING THAT TOUCHES IT.

AND I GOT MY BEADS.

YOU KNOW, YOU GOT YOUR BEAD UNDER YOUR WEIGHT JUST TO KEEP IT OFF THE KNOT FROM, YOU KNOW, DAMAGING YOUR LINE.

- IT REALLY WORKS.

- IT'S A GOOD FLOAT RIG.

- THAT LITTLE SLIP.

WELL, LISTEN.

THANK YOU.

IT WAS A GREAT DAY.

I REALLY ENJOYED IT.

- IT WAS.

- AND WE'LL GET TOGETHER AND DO IT AGAIN SOON.

- YES, WE WILL.

TOMORROW MORNING.

- THANK YOU.

- ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, DEAN.

- WELL, WE HOPE YOU CAN USE THAT INFORMATION.

NOW, LET'S CATCH UP WITH DONNA.

SHE'S IN THE KITCHEN WITH A RECIPE TODAY.

I CALL IT FISH ON A BUN; WE CALL IT FISH SLIDERS.

[light instrumental music] ♪ ♪ - HI, TODAY WE'RE MAKING FISH SLIDERS IN THE KITCHEN, AND I HAVE NOTICED THAT ON ALL MENU ITEMS, OR ON ALL MENUS, THERE ARE THESE SLIDERS.

THEY'RE HAMBURGER SLIDERS, AND SO I DECIDED "YOU KNOW WHAT?

"LET'S MAKE SOME FISH SLIDERS.

HOW GREAT WOULD THAT BE?"

SO I FOUND SOME SLIDER BUNS IN THE GROCERY STORE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TODAY.

I HAVE MY OIL NICE AND HOT, AND WE ARE GOING TO USE A PAN TO DO OUR FISH, BUT YOU CAN ALSO DO A DEEP FRYER IF YOU WANT, IF THAT'S JUST SOMETHING YOU LIKE TO USE.

I LIKE TO USE MINE OUTSIDE IF I'M GOING TO DEEP-FRY, BUT WE JUST HAVE OUR PAN NICE AND HOT WITH OUR OIL IN IT, AND WE'RE GOING TO USE CATFISH TODAY, AND WE'RE GOING TO USE SEAFOOD BREADER, AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT THIS IS YOU CAN USE ANY TYPE OF BREADER YOU WANT.

SO WHATEVER YOU MIGHT HAVE, IF YOU HAVE MEDIUM-HOT BREADER, YOU CAN USE THAT.

YOU CAN USE SEAFOOD BREADER.

YOU CAN MIX THEM TOGETHER.

SO THAT'S GREAT.

YOU CAN MAKE DIFFERENT ONES FOR YOUR FAMILY DEPENDING ON EVERYBODY'S TASTES.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUR SEAFOOD BREADER OUT HERE ON OUR WAX PAPER, AND THEN I JUST HAVE SOME CATFISH THAT I FOUND, AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO CUT THAT INTO SMALL PIECES.

SO, YOU KNOW, PIECES ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE PALM OF YOUR HAND WOULD WORK GREAT, AND THEN WE'RE JUST GOING TO DREDGE THAT IN OUR BREADER, SHAKE OFF THE EXCESS, AND THEN WE'RE JUST GOING TO PLACE THAT RIGHT INTO OUR HOT OIL.

SO THIS DOESN'T TAKE A LONG TIME TO DO.

IT'S REALLY QUICK AND EASY, AND IT'S SOMETHING FUN.

IT WILL BE A GREAT-- IT WILL BE A GREAT LUNCH ON A SATURDAY OF JUST A FUN DINNER, OR IT WOULD BE A GREAT APPETIZER AT A PARTY.

SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO FRY THOSE UP AND GET THOSE NICE AND GOLDEN BROWN ON EITHER SIDE, AND THEN TO TOP THEM, YOU CAN PUT OUT A LITTLE TOPPING BAR IF YOU WANT.

I LIKE JUST SOME GREAT FRESH SLICED TOMATOES, MAYBE SOME GREAT LETTUCE YOU MIGHT HAVE OUT OF YOUR GARDEN, OR YOU CAN JUST BUY A LETTUCE MIX MAYBE AT THE GROCERY STORE.

YOU CAN PUT SOME GREAT-- INSTEAD OF TARTER SAUCE, I LIKE TO USE COCKTAIL SAUCE ON MINE BECAUSE IT ADDS A LITTLE BIT OF SOME TANG TO IT.

YOU CAN SPICE THAT UP WITH SOME HORSERADISH IF YOU WANT.

YOU CAN PUT MUSTARD.

YOU CAN PUT PICKLES.

WHATEVER YOU LIKE, JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MAKE IT YOUR OWN, AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE BIT OF A TALK.

PEOPLE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AT YOUR NEXT PARTY.

SO LET'S LOOK AT THEM, AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE WHEN I PUT MINE TOGETHER.

I JUST SERVED MINE WITH SOME FRESH FRUIT BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS NICE AND PRETTY AS WELL AS HEALTHY FOR YOU.

AND I JUST PUT SOME COCKTAIL SAUCE ON MY BUN, TOPPED MY FISH, AND PUT LETTUCE AND TOMATO ON THERE.

IT'S GREAT.

YOU CAN TOAST YOUR BUNS UP TOO IF YOU'D LIKE.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT AS WELL, BUT YOU GET THE NICE CRUNCHY TASTE OF THE OUTSIDE OF YOUR FISH, PLUS IT'S NICE AND MOIST AND JUICY ON THE INSIDE.

SO I HOPE YOU LOVE THESE FISH SLIDERS AS MUCH AS I DO, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU NEXT TIME HERE ON SIMPLE COOKING.

- WE THANK YOU, DONNA, FOR THAT RECIPE.

JOE, LET'S GO BACK TO GOOD DAY OF FISHING FOR SPECKS.

- REALLY GOOD DAY, AND FISHING WITH CAPTAIN KELLUM, YOU'LL CATCH SPECKLED TROUT.

HE'S ONE OF THE BETTER SPECKLED TROUT GUYS WE'VE GOT ON THE ENTIRE COAST OF NORTH CAROLINA, BUT USING LIVE SHRIMP, THAT'S A NATURAL FOOD FOR SPECKLED TROUT YEAR-ROUND, BUT ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMERTIME WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF THEM, AND SO HE-- THAT'S WHAT HE USES THAT TIME OF YEAR.

HE FISHES ARTIFICIALS MOST OF THE YEAR, BUT IN THE SUMMERTIME WHEN A LOT OF HIS CLIENTS LIKE TO USE LIVE BAIT, AS YOU SAW, VERY PRODUCTIVE MANNER OF CATCHING THEM, AND WE JUST CAUGHT A LOT OF FISH.

- JUST ANOTHER GOOD DAY OF FISHING IN NORTH CAROLINA.

- ABSOLUTELY.

- FOR JOE ALBEA, I'M JOHN MOORE.

THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY ON THE CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL.

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THE CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY: - [FEMALE ANNOUNCER]: "WILDLIFE IN NORTH CAROLINA" MAGAZINE.

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