[PIANO INTRO] [reel clicking] - HE DIDN'T LIKE THE LOOK OF SOMETHING.

- YEAH.

- THAT NET YOU'RE HOLDING.

- [laughs] - HEY--OH, HE'S A DRUM.

I HEARD HIM POP THAT TIME.

- YUP.

LIKE A OL' MALE.

- LISTEN TO HIM.

HEAR HIM DRUMMING FROM HERE.

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[LIGHT INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC] ♪ - HELLO, WELCOME TO THE CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL.

WELL, TODAY'S PROGRAM WE'RE GOING TO BE FISHING FOR DRUM.

BUT, JOE, WE GONNA BE USING A NEW METHOD TO NORTH CAROLINA USING THE POPPING CORK.

- WELL, YES, FOR THESE BIG DRUM.

AND WE ARE-- ARE GONNA TARGET THE BIG DRUM OUT IN PAMLICO SOUND RIGHT AT THE MOUTH OF THE NEUSE RIVER, AND WE'RE USING A POPPING CORK METHOD THAT'S USED A LOT FOR SPECKED TROUT HERE IN NORTH CAROLINA.

BUT THESE ARE-- THESE ARE THE BIG DRUM.

IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY OF CATCHING THEM.

A LOT OF BIG DRUM TODAY, SO STAY TUNED.

- AND, JOE, IN GEAR TIME TODAY, IT'LL BE SOME INTERESTING INFORMATION.

- RIGHT.

YEAH.

CAPTAIN GARY DUBIEL'S WITH US TODAY AND HE'LL-- HE'LL GO BACK AND SHOW US THE RIG ITSELF, HOW HE FISHES IT, THE TYPE OF ROD AND REEL YOU NEED FOR IT, AND JUST LOADS OF FUN TO CATCH THESE BIG FISH.

TYPICALLY IN THE PAST, WE'VE CAUGHT THEM ON THE BOTTOM-- BOTTOM FISHING WITH CUT BAIT, LIVE BAIT.

THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE, AND I THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE OVER THE TYPE OF-- THAT TYPE OF FISHING OUT THERE.

- AND THEN OUR RECIPE TODAY HAS TO DO WITH SHRIMP AND CITRUS.

- THAT'S RIGHT.

IT'S A GOOD SALAD.

A SHRIMP SALAD FROM DONNA TODAY.

IF YOU LIKE SHRIMP-- AND MOST PEOPLE DO--TUNE IN.

- WELL, WE GOT SOME DRUM WAITING FOR US HERE TODAY ON THE CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL.

- THANK YOU.

- WOW, GARY, IT'S KIND OF COOL FOR THE END OF AUGUST, ISN'T IT?

- IT SURE IS.

WE'VE HAD THIS COOL FRONT COME IN THE LAST COUPLE DAYS.

WIND'S BEEN BLOWING HARD OUT OF THE NORTHEAST, BUT IT CALMED DOWN A LITTLE BIT THIS MORNING.

- IT FEELS GOOD; YOU THINK IT'LL AFFECT OUR FISHING?

- I DON'T--I DON'T THINK SO.

I THINK WE'LL FIND THESE FISH TODAY.

IT MAY TAKE US A MINUTE, BUT YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN USING THIS NEW POPPING CORK TECHNIQUE ON THESE OLD DRUM, AND THEY LIKE IT.

- I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT IT AND I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT TODAY.

- WELL, THEY'RE-- I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOU STICK INTO ONE.

- TIE INTO ONE?

- ABSOLUTELY.

- SOUNDS GOOD.

WELL, LET'S GIVE IT A TRY.

- ALL RIGHT, MAN.

SOUNDS GREAT.

- GARY, I KNOW THAT KEEPING THE LINE OUT OF THE WATER WHEN YOU SNATCH IT, IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE MORE LOWS.

IS THAT TECHNIQUE THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING, OR JUST-- - THE REAL KEY ON THAT IS MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE GOOD CONTACT TO THE LINE.

SO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY SLACK IN THE LINE.

I LIKE TO KEEP THE ROD A LITTLE BIT FLATTER.

PULL HARD, SHORT PULL.

COME UP ON A LITTLE BIT OF AN ANGLE.

KIND OF TAKES THAT CUPFACE CORK AND REALLY GIVES IT A LOT OF EXTRA NOISE.

- KEY IS NO SLACK IN THE LINE PROBABLY, RIGHT?

- ABSOLUTELY.

- DO YOU REEL JUST A TINY BIT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE COMING ALONG SIDE HERE TO KEEP?

- YEAH, JUST-- - IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP SLACK, ISN'T IT?

- RIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY.

KEEP HER TIGHT.

HEADING.

HEADING UNDERNEATH.

[reel clicking] I THINK YOU GOT A FISH.

- I BELIEVE I HAVE.

[laughter] WELL, AT LEAST I DIDN'T SEE HIM NEITHER.

- WE'VE HAD A TOUGH MORNING SO FAR.

THIS COLD FRONT SEEMS TO HAVE HAD OUR BAIT DISAPPEAR, AND WE'VE HAD TO SEARCH FOR THEM A LITTLE BIT, BUT THERE WE GO.

- MM-HMM.

I TELL YOU WHAT.

THEY APPEAR A LITTLE FASTER ON A STACKER, DON'T THEY?

- YEAH.

YEAH.

THEY'RE JUST OUT OF NO WHERE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY INTERESTING ON THIS-- YOU KNOW, USING THIS CORK TECHNIQUE.

AND YOU'RE WORKING ALONG, WORKING ALONG, AND DON'T THINK MUCH OF IT, AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF DRAG GOING.

- YEAH, THAT WAS TOO PRETTY QUICK THERE.

- YUP, SURE ENOUGH.

SURE ENOUGH.

- THAT OTHER ONE JUST LET GO.

- WELL, I'M GONNA THROW OUT HERE WHILE YOU'RE PLAYING THAT ONE AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET ANOTHER ONE ON IT.

- HOW MUCH PRESSURE DO WE JUST WANT TO JUST BRING HIM ON IN HERE AS QUICK AS WE CAN?

FOG WOULD BE AROUND THE BOAT, WON'T IT?

- YEP.

SURE ENOUGH.

YOU KNOW WE GOT-- WE GOT 30-POUND BRAID ON THERE, SO WE GOT PLENTY OF BREAKING STRENGTH AND GOOD DRAG, AND WE CAN KIND OF MUSCLE THEM UP A LITTLE BIT.

- THESE ARE SOME SMALL REELS TO HANDLE THAT PRESSURE.

- WELL, THEY'RE REALLY--YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DESIGNED TO THAT.

THEY'RE A NEW REEL FROM PENN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GOT A LOT OF EXTRA DRAG WASHERS IN THERE AND REALLY MADE-TO-FISH HEAVY BRAID, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LIGHT ROD AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE FISHING A LIGHTER ROD BUT A ROD WITH A LOT OF BACKBONE.

SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S SMALLER EQUIPMENT THAN YOU MAY BE ACCUSTOMED TO THROWING BAIT ON, IT'S CERTAINLY GOT WHAT IT NEEDS TO BRING THESE BIG FISH TO THE BOAT IN A HURRY.

- I LIKE THAT.

I'M SURPRISED THEY DIDN'T SWIM AROUND THE BOAT A LITTLE MORE.

- WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S-- HE'S KIND OF GIVING US A WIDE CIRCLE HERE NOW, BUT HE'S ON HIS WAY.

- BOTH THOSE FISH HIT PRETTY CLOSE TO THE BOAT, AND THAT ONE CAME RIGHT TO ME.

NOT MUCH YOU COULD DO OTHER THAN GET IT UNDERNEATH THE MOTORS.

- RIGHT.

THEY'LL, UH, I'VE HAD THEM COME SO CLOSE HITTING THAT, THEY SPLASH WATER IN THE BOAT.

THEY SHOW NO FEAR.

THEY DON'T LIKE THE MOTOR NOISE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY FEAR OF THE BOAT.

IT'S REALLY QUITE SOMETHING.

- YEP, I'M GOING ALL AROUND.

HOW MANY TIMES YOU THINK WE'LL GO AROUND?

- WELL, HOPEFULLY JUST ONCE, AND WE'LL GET A NET ON HIM HERE.

- I'VE SEEN HIM.

I'VE SEEN HIM ONCE.

- I'M GONNA GET READY TO HELP YOU OUT HERE.

WELL-- JUST LIKE YOU'RE BAIT FISHING.

I'M GONNA LIFT HIM IN THE BOAT.

I'VE GOT A NICE LITTLE CRATE ON THE NET.

NOT GONNA HURT HIM.

NOT ANY EXTRA PRESSURE.

I'M GONNA SET HIM RIGHT ON THE DECK HERE FOR A SECOND.

- OKAY.

- OKAY, I'D HATE TO HAVE HIM BITE ON EVERY CAST BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A TOUGH PROPOSITION.

THAT'S JUST AN IMPRESSIVE FISH, ISN'T IT?

- IT SURE IS.

I NEVER TIRE OF LOOKING AT ONE LIKE THAT WHEN THEY GET FAT AND HEALTHY AND THEY'RE JUST SO PRETTY.

- IT'S--THEY'RE AMAZING FISH NO MATTER HOW YOU CATCH THEM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE VISUAL, A LITTLE BIT MORE HANDS ON LIKE WE'RE DOING NOW OVER THE BAIT FISHING, IT'S A SPECIAL EXPERIENCE.

- OR WHEN A STRIKE MAKES IT.

- ABSOLUTELY.

GET THAT STRIKE AND THEN THE DRAG GOES AND--MMM.

- BILL PYE TOLD ME ONE TIME SOMETHING ABOUT FISHING.

HE SAID, "THE HIGHER UP IN THE WATER COLUMN YOU CAN CATCH THEM, THE BETTER IT IS."

THERE'S A LOT OF TRUTH IN THAT.

- ABSOLUTELY.

- HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A BLUEFISH BITE THERE.

- THAT'S NOT A BLUEFISH.

- THERE WE GO.

THERE WE GO.

- IT'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN A BLUEFISH, I THINK.

- YEAH.

ONCE YOU USE HIM LIKE A TROLLING MOTOR AND JUST SWING THE BY RIGHT ON UP.

- HE'S WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW.

OH, HE'S COMING.

WELL, YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT A BLUEFISH.

AND SUDDENLY MY CORK WENT DOWN, AND I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT FOR A SECOND, AND-- - THEY'LL LET YOU KNOW IF IT'S ONE OF THOSE DRUM, WON'T IT?

YOU BETTER BE HOLDING ON.

- OH, THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.

- HE TURNED AND MADE A RUN TOO, SO YOU HAD TO MAKE A QUICK, UH-- - QUICK ADJUSTMENT.

- YEAH.

- IT'S AMAZING HOW FAST THEY CAN MOVE.

YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE-- - OH, LOOK.

HE'S UP ON TOP THERE TOO.

- YUP.

- I LIKE THAT.

- YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS THINK THEY JUST KIND OF SLOWLY MELT ALONG THE BOTTOM, BUT WHEN THEY GOT TO PUT ON THE AFTERBURNERS, THEY CAN MAKE A BURST OF SPEED.

THEY CAN MAKE A GOOD INITIAL RUN.

- YES, THEY DO.

- YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE CORK THING, IT'S SO VISUAL, YOU KNOW, FROM THE CORK DISAPPEARING AND YOU SEE THE LINE GOING THROUGH THE WATER.

THEN YOU SEE HIM UP ON TOP.

IT'S A LOT BETTER THAN BEING OUT THERE IN THE DARK AND FEELING YOUR WAY AROUND.

- YEAH, I AGREE.

YOU LOOK LIKE AN OLD FISH.

- THAT IS AN OLD FISH THERE.

THAT WAS PROBABLY A LITTLE TOO MUCH MOMENTUM.

- YEAH, WELL, WE'LL GET HIM HERE OR HE'LL GET OFF.

WELL, I GOT MORE FISH-- - YOU GOT MORE FISH-- - I GOT MORE FISH THAN I GOT NET.

I BELIEVE THE NET'S A LITTLE BIT FLIPPED OVER ON ITSELF THERE.

TRYING TO BE AS EASY ON HIM AS I CAN.

- ABSOLUTELY.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND GRAB THAT WHOLE BASKET AND EVERYTHING, AND WE'LL JUST HAVE HIM RIGHT UP.

- SURE.

YEP.

OH, MY, SHE'S HEAVY.

- WOW.

- HOW MUCH DO YOU RECKON SHE WEIGHS?

LOOK AT THAT.

- SHE'S 50 POUNDS.

SHE'S EVERY BIT OF 50 POUNDS.

YOU KNOW, A FISH THAT BIG, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ON THAT TACKLE?

PRETTY QUICK.

PRETTY QUICK AND IT BROKE.

- PRETTY QUICK.

- GREAT RUN.

PRETTY QUICK TO THE BOAT.

- WELL, A LOT OF THAT'S IN KNOWING HOW TO HANDLE A FISH.

NOT SO MUCH THE TACKLE YOU GOT.

- THAT'S TRUE.

- LET'S GET HER DOWN IN THERE.

- SOUNDS GREAT.

SHE'S GETTING ABOUT READY THERE.

- OOH, THAT'S RIGHT.

THEY'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN IT'S TIME TO GO.

- AND OFF SHE GOES.

- GOOD JOB, MAN.

NICE FISH.

- YES, SIR.

- TOO NICE A FISH, I SWEAR.

HOW OLD DO YOU THINK THAT FISH PROBABLY WAS?

- WELL, SHE COULD BE IN HER 30s.

I MEAN, I-- - AMAZING, ISN'T IT?

- YUP.

IT SURE IS.

YOU KNOW, KURT, WE'RE ON THE NEUSE RIVER TODAY.

WE COME OUT OF ORIENTAL FISHING THE NEUSE RIVER DOING THIS BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS TECHNIQUE I THINK'S GONNA BE VERY EFFECTIVE THROUGH THE WHOLE PAMLICO SOUND ESTUARY SYSTEM.

- YEAH, WELL, I DON'T SELDOM FISH OVER THIS WAY, BUT DON'T THINK THAT I HADN'T BEEN THINKING OF PLACES A LOT LIKE WHERE WE'RE BEEN AT.

AND LOOKING AT IT, OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE, I'D TO PAMLICO A LOT CLOSER TO HOME.

I CAN'T SEE WHERE IT CAN'T WORK EVERYWHERE.

- ABSOLUTELY.

YOU KNOW, EVEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SOUND, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SIMILAR SITUATIONS.

YOU KNOW, THESE FISH ARE EVERYWHERE.

THEY'RE ALL UP AND DOWN THE SOUND.

ALL THE WAY UP TO NAG'S HEAD AND OVER TO OCRACOKE AND-- YOU KNOW.

SO LOTS OF FISH AND LOTS OF TERRITORY TO DO THIS.

- AND I'VE SEEN ALL THE MARKERS THAT YOU WERE TELLING ME ABOUT TO LOOK FOR TOO.

- RIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY.

- BAIT, YOU KNOW.

WHICH WE HADN'T HAD A LOT OF TODAY.

- YEAH, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE TOUGH ON THE BAIT FOR US TODAY.

THIS COLD FRONT SEEMS TO PUSH THIS BAIT SOMEWHERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR BAIT, LOOKING FOR DROPS, LEDGES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA AND, YOU KNOW, HERE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A LEDGE AND SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT FOOT OF WATER AND JUST KIND OF WORK IT ALONG AND PICKING UP A FEW FISH.

WELL, WHAT'S THAT?

- IT STARTED KIND OF SLUGGISH AT THE START WHEEL.

- WELL, YOU DON'T LOOK TOO SLUGGISH NOW THOUGH.

AND I SEE A LITTLE--HE'S COMING ACROSS THE TOP TO GET THAT-- HAVE THAT LINE ROOSTER-TAILED IN IT IN A SECOND.

- AMAZING.

RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF DAY.

WHAT IS IT?

1:00.

HOW DEEP IS IT HERE?

SIX FOOT?

FIVE FOOT?

- YUP.

- IN THE BAY--LOOK.

IF HE WAS THIS FULL OVER THERE, IT'S BE ON THE SHORE.

- ABSOLUTELY.

- HE HIT KIND OF FUNNY.

HE JUST KIND OF SNOOKERED THAT THING AND THEN HUNG THERE FOR A MINUTE.

HE'S SHAKING HIS HEAD SOME.

- YEAH.

YOU CAN SEE THE HEAD SHAKE.

[reel clicking] - THAT'S A GOOD BIT OF PRESSURE.

YOU CAN HEAR ON THAT DRAG.

YOU KNOW HOW MUCH PRESSURE'S ON IT.

- YEAH, LOOK AT THAT ROD.

IT'S BENT DOWN TO THE CORK.

- YEAH, HE'S DOGGING IT NOW.

- YEAH.

PUTTING A LOT OF-- GOT A LOT OF HEAT ON THAT--HUH.

UH-HUH.

I THINK WE'LL HELP GET IN CONTROL OF HIM BETTER HERE A LITTLE BIT.

- AH, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

WE'LL GET IT.

I DON'T WANT TO GET NO SLACK ON IT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

- YEAH, I HEAR YOU.

AH, THE ITCHES.

- I--IS HE AFRAID OF SPOTTING THE LINE MAYBE THERE?

- YEAH.

- OOH, I DIDN'T LIKE THAT.

THAT WAS A SUBSTANTIAL HEADSHAKE THERE.

BUT THIS HOOK'S PROBABLY DOWN IN THERE, ISN'T IT?

IT'S NOT ON THE CORNER OF HIS MOUTH.

HE'S-- - YEAH, THEY USUALLY, I MEAN-- THERE'S SO MUCH PRESSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF LIKE FISHING THAT BAIT RIG.

THERE'S SO MUCH PRESSURE ON THAT BARBED HOOK THAT IT'S REALLY GOT TO BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO COME OUT.

LOOK AT THAT.

AH, THERE'S A BIG CATCH.

HE'S RIGHT ON TOP FOR YOU.

- YEAH.

COME ON, BABY!

HEY, BULLDOG, SLAP ME AND HOOK UP THE TROLLING MOTOR.

OH, OH, OH!

- I'LL POP DOWN AND GET THE NET HERE.

- GETTING CLOSE.

[reel clicking] - HE DIDN'T LIKE THE LOOK OF SOMETHING.

- YEAH.

THAT NET YOU HOLDING.

OH, HE'S A DRUM.

I HEARD HIM POP THAT TIME.

- YUP.

BIG OL' MALE.

- LISTEN TO HIM.

HEAR HIM DRUMMING FROM HERE.

- GOT YOU SWEATING A LITTLE BIT.

PULLED YOU RIGHT UP.

- LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT HOOK OUT OF HIM.

GET HIM BACK IN THERE QUICK AS WE CAN.

- ALL RIGHT.

- CAN YOU-- - SEE IF WE CAN'T JUST GIVE HIM A LITTLE ROLL.

HE WANTS THAT.

STAY IN THAT NET.

HOOK'S FREE.

- HOOK'S FREE.

JUST GONNA BACK HIM OUT.

- LISTEN TO HIM DRUM.

I JUST LOVE THAT.

HE HUNG ON ON THIS FIN.

- HOW ABOUT THAT?

YEAH, HE'S OFF.

- HE STILL HAD A LITTLE BIT LEFT IN HIM.

- YEAH, HE DID.

- I DON'T BELIEVE I COULD GO THAT FAST RIGHT NOW.

THAT WAS A TOUGH FISH THERE.

- YEAH.

GREAT FIGHT.

- CAUGHT A FEW TODAY, BUT THAT ONE WAS A TOUGH ONE.

- GREAT FIGHT.

- AND HE DIDN'T LOOK REALLY-- WELL, THEY'RE ALL BIG.

- THEY'RE ALL BIG.

- THEY'RE ALL BIG.

- SOME JUST A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN OTHERS, THAT'S ALL.

- YEAH.

- GOOD JOB, BROTHER.

GOOD JOB, MAN.

THAT'S GREAT.

- I LOVE TO HEAR THEM-- LOVE TO HEAR THEM DRUM.

ALL RIGHT, MAN.

- WELL... - MIDDLE OF THE DAY.

STILL CATCHING.

- JOE, THAT IS AN EXCITING WAY TO CATCH DRUM.

- IT REALLY-- THE BIG ONES, YEAH.

TYPICALLY IN THE PAST WE'VE CAUGHT THEM, YOU KNOW, ON THE BOTTOM; A LOT AT NIGHT.

THIS IS DAYTIME FISHING AND, UH, REALLY A NEAT WAY TO CATCH THEM.

- ALL RIGHT.

LET'S FIND OUT MORE.

LET'S GO TO GEAR TIME.

- I TELL YOU WHAT, GARY, THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN.

SELDOM WHEN I GO FISHING DO I ENJOY USING SOMEBODY ELSE'S TACKLE, BUT IN THIS CASE I DID.

AND FRANKLY, I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO FIT THE BILL.

- WELL, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A UNIQUE TACKLE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST USING MEDIUM-- MEDIUM HEAVY ACTION RODS.

IN THIS CASE, TEMPLE FORK RODS.

SALTWATER DESIGN WITH A NICE LONG BUTT.

A LOT OF--LOT OF BACKBONE RIGHT DOWN INTO THE REAL SEAT THAT ALLOWS US TO PUT A LOT OF EXTRA PRESSURE ON THESE FISH, EVEN WITH A FAIRLY LIGHT OUTFIT.

- AND AN EXCELLENT DRAG SYSTEM.

- THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY NEED A HIGH QUALITY REEL.

SPEND THE EXTRA MONEY IF YOU'RE DOING THIS.

HIGH, HIGH QUALITY REEL, BECAUSE AS WE-- WE SAW ON THE SHOW, YOU'RE GONNA GET LOTS OF DRAG.

- UNDER A LOT OF PRESSURE.

- YES SIR.

SURE ENOUGH.

- BRAID WAS WHAT?

30 POUNDS?

- 30 POUND BRAID.

NICE LIGHT DIAMETER.

GIVES US A GREAT DISTANCE CASTING.

SAME BREAKING STRENGTH AS WE WOULD FIND WHEN WE'RE FISHING THE OLD BIG CASTING RODS WITH 20, 25, 30 POUND MONOFILAMENT.

SO A LOT OF BREAKING STRENGTH THERE.

WE'RE NOT LOSING THESE FISH.

WE'RE GETTING THESE FISH BACK INTO THE BOAT QUICK WITH IT ALL.

- HOW ABOUT THROWING A TACKLE?

- WELL, WE'RE WISHING A--FISHING A D.O.A.

POPPING CORK.

A BIG CONCAVE.

IT'S GOT SOME WEIGHT INSIDE.

MAKE A LOT OF NOISE, AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE KEY.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PULLING THIS.

YOU HEARD THAT BIG SPLASH.

THEY COME TO THAT NOISE AND FOCUS ON THAT.

WE'VE GOT ABOUT A 18 TO 24 INCH LEADER.

NOT A VERY LONG LEADER BECAUSE THESE FISH AGAIN ARE GONNA COME TO THE NOISE.

YOU WANT THAT BAIT HIGH ON THE WATER CALLING THEM--CALLING THEM.

A NICE STOUT JIG HOOK.

AND THEN WE GOT SOME D.O.A.

BODIES, AND WE CAUGHT FISH BOTH ON THE COW BAITS, WHICH IS A 5 1/2 INCH COW AND BOTH ON THE AIRHEAD.

WE GOT FISH ON BOTH OF THOSE TODAY.

- BARB ALSO BIT DOWN ON THAT.

- YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

MAKE IT EASY FOR THESE FISH.

WE'RE GETTING THESE FISH BACK IN THE WATER AS QUICK AS WE CAN AND GO AHEAD AND MASH THAT BARB DOWN.

THESE FISH GO RIGHT BACK OFF IN THE WATER.

- I ALSO NOTED I DON'T THINK YOU'D BE ABLE TO USE MONO ON THIS, FAR AS WE COULD CAST, BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TOO MUCH STRETCH IN THE LINE.

GOOD ON CATCHING THE FISH, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU COULD HAVE MADE THE CORK POP.

- ABSOLUTELY.

- I ENJOYED IT, MAN.

IT WAS A GREAT TRIP.

- IT WAS GREAT.

- LOOK FORWARD TO DOING IT AGAIN AS ALWAYS.

FUN WITH YOU.

- GREAT, GREAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

- THANKS, GARY, FOR THAT INFORMATION, AND IF YOU WANT TO GO GIVE GARY A CALL, HIS NUMBER'S RIGHT THERE ON YOUR SCREEN.

NOW, LET'S CATCH UP WITH DONNA.

SHE'S GOT A RECIPE TODAY USING SHRIMP.

- HI.

TODAY IN THE KITCHEN, WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING A SHRIMP CITRUS SALAD.

IT'S A GREAT SALAD.

HAS LOTS OF GREAT FLAVORS AND TEXTURES IN IT.

I THINK YOU'RE REALLY GONNA ENJOY IT, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA TAKE OUR SCALLIONS AND WE'RE GONNA SLICE THOSE REALLY THIN.

WE'RE GONNA ADD JUST A LITTLE BIT-- ABOUT A TABLESPOON OR SO OF SOME VINEGAR, AND I USED SOME WHITE WINE VINEGAR, BUT IF YOU HAVE SOME SEASONED OR SOME CITRUS VINEGAR THAT YOU REALLY LIKE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT AS WELL.

WE'RE JUST GONNA MARINATE THOSE FOR ABOUT FIVE MINUTES OR SO AND PLACE THOSE INTO OUR BOWL.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE HAVE SOME GREAT FLAVOR.

THEY'VE SOAKED UP A LOT OF THAT--THE VINEGAR AS WELL.

WE'RE ALSO GONNA ADD IN ABOUT TWO TABLESPOONS OR SO OF OLIVE OIL, AND IF YOU HAVE SOME FLAVORED OILS, YOU CAN USE THOSE AS WELL.

WE'RE GONNA ADD IN SOME-- SOME LEMON WEDGES THAT WE JUST HAVE PEELED OUR LEMON AND THEN CUT IT INTO WEDGES.

SOME LIME.

SO YOU CAN SEE IT HAS LOTS OF GREAT FLAVORS GOING ON IN HERE, AND WE'RE JUST MIX THIS TOGETHER.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO POUR IT OVER OUR LETTUCE GREENS, AND I'M GONNA ALSO TALK ABOUT SOME OTHER GREAT THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA PUT IN THIS SALAD.

SO WE'RE JUST GONNA PUT THAT IN THERE, AND WE'RE GONNA GIVE THAT A QUICK TOSS JUST TO COVER OUR GREENS.

AND I LIKE TO USE DIFFERENT TYPES OF GREENS.

THESE ARE--KIND OF HAVE COME ACTUALLY OUT OF MY KID'S GARDEN, SO THEY HARVESTED THESE FOR ME.

SO WE'RE JUST GONNA COAT THOSE LIGHTLY, AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT FLAVORS AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT SHAPES AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF GREENS IN HERE, WHICH WILL GIVE YOUR SALAD A LITTLE BIT MORE INTEREST AS WELL.

I ALSO HAVE ROASTED SOME BEETS, AND IF YOU'VE NEVER DONE THIS, THIS IS A GREAT THING.

YOU BUY BEETS AT THE STORE, YOU JUST CUT OFF THE STALKS, AND YOU JUST PRICK IT LIKE YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE BAKING A BAKED POTATO.

SO YOU'RE JUST GONNA TAKE YOUR KNIFE AND JUST KIND OF POKE THEM ON THERE JUST SO THAT WHEN THEY START TO COOK, THE STEAM CAN ESCAPE.

AND THEN YOU BAKE THEM FOR 400 DEGREES FOR ABOUT 20, 25 MINUTES, 30 MINUTES, UNTIL THEY'RE JUST NICE AND TENDER.

YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO BE TOO SOFT.

THEN BRING THEM OUT, LET THEM COOL, AND AS THEY COOL, THE SKIN WILL KIND OF SHRIVEL A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN THEY'RE EASIER TO PEEL.

AND THIS IS WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE WHEN THEY'RE PEELED.

AND WE'RE JUST GONNA QUARTER THESE.

AND YOU CAN SLICE THEM.

YOU CAN DICE THEM.

THEY ARE WONDERFUL.

THEY HAVE A GREAT FLAVOR.

THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF BEETS TOO.

YOU CAN BUY SOME GOLDEN BEETS, WHICH ARE LIKE AN ORANGEY-YELLOW, WHICH IS REALLY PRETTY TOO.

SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE ON OUR SALAD.

WE'RE GONNA PUT THOSE IN OUR BOWL AS WELL.

THEN WE'RE ALSO GONNA ADD IN SOME GRAPEFRUIT SECTIONS.

AND YOU CAN BUY THESE IN A JAR IF YOU'D LIKE, OR YOU CAN-- IF GRAPEFRUIT IS IN SEASON, IT'S A GREAT THING TO, YOU KNOW, PEEL AND DO THOSE YOURSELF.

I JUST BOUGHT THESE 'CAUSE THEY'RE READILY AVAILABLE AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT QUICK AND EASY MEALS THAT WE CAN PREPARE.

SO WE'RE JUST GONNA TOSS THOSE IN THERE AND COAT THOSE TOO.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA SERVE THIS ON A PLATTER, OR YOU CAN PORTION IT OUT IF YOU'D LIKE ONTO INDIVIDUAL PLATES.

I JUST LIKE TO SERVE MINE ON A BIG PLATTER 'CAUSE I THINK IT HAS MORE OF AN IMPRESSION.

SO WE'RE JUST GONNA PLACE THIS ONTO OUR PLATTER, AND THEN INSTEAD OF HAVING CRACKERS OR BREAD, WE'RE GONNA SERVE OURS WITH SOME YUMMY HUSH PUPPIES WITH ONION FLAVOR IN 'EM.

AND THEY'RE ONE OF MY FAVORITES, AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN USING YOUR BASIC BREAD OR SOME CRACKERS.

SO WE'RE JUST GONNA PLACE THAT ON THERE.

AND YOU CAN SEE IT JUST LOOKS REALLY YUMMY.

AND THIS COULD BE A MAIN-- AN ENTREE SALAD, WHICH IS NICE.

AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA TAKE SOME SHRIMP THAT'S COLD THAT WE HAVE BOILED, PEELED AND BOILED.

AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S JUST A GREAT, FUN LITTLE SALAD.

SOMETHING WHEN IT'S NICE AND WARM OUTSIDE AND YOU WANT SOMETHING COOL.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA SERVE IT WITH SOME GREAT HUSH PUPPIES ON THE SIDE.

SO THERE IS YOUR ENTREE SALAD FOR YOUR SHRIMP AND CITRUS SALAD.

I HOPE YOU ENJOY IT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU NEXT TIME HERE ON SIMPLE COOKING.

- THANKS, DONNA, FOR THAT RECIPE.

THAT RECIPE AND A WHOLE LOT MORE CAN BE FOUND IN CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL COOKBOOK.

JOE, YOU THINK THIS FISHING METHOD IS GONNA CATCH ON?

- I REALLY DO.

I THINK IT'S GONNA-- IT'S ALREADY REALLY WITH A LOT OF THE GUIDES AROUND IN THAT AREA.

THEY'VE ALREADY PICKED UP ON IT, AND AGAIN, WE CAUGHT THESE FISH RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY WHICH IS REALLY UNUSUAL FOR THAT, THAT SIZE OF DRUM IN PAMLICO SOUND.

BUT I THINK THE-- THAT METHOD IS GONNA CATCH ON.

WHEN YOU'RE POPPING THAT CORK, A LOT OF TIMES THE DRUM WILL ACTUALLY COME UP AND HIT CORK.

SO I THINK JUST, JUST THE ACTIVITY THAT YOU GET FISHING THAT YOU'RE CONSTANTLY FISHING YOUR BAIT-- I THINK IT'S GONNA BE THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE FOR BIG DRUM FISHING IN PAMLICO SOUND.

- JUST ANOTHER DAY OF GOOD FISHING IN NORTH CAROLINA.

- ABSOLUTELY.

- ALL RIGHT.

FOR JOE ALBEA, I'M JOHN MOORE.

THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY ON THE CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL.

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