WVIA Special Presentations
Pennsylvania 8th Congressional District Debate
Season 2022 Episode 12 | 54m 59sVideo has Closed Captions
The live debate will feature incumbent Congressman Matt Cartwright (D) and Jim Bognet (R).
WVIA will broadcast the 2022 8th Congressional District Debate live from the WVIA Studios in Pittston, PA on Thursday, October 20 at 7 p.m. The live debate will feature incumbent Congressman Matt Cartwright (D) and Jim Bognet (R). The debate will simulcast live on WVIA-TV and WVIA Radio and will livestream on WVIA’s Facebook and Youtube channels as well as at wvia.org.
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WVIA Special Presentations
Pennsylvania 8th Congressional District Debate
Season 2022 Episode 12 | 54m 59sVideo has Closed Captions
WVIA will broadcast the 2022 8th Congressional District Debate live from the WVIA Studios in Pittston, PA on Thursday, October 20 at 7 p.m. The live debate will feature incumbent Congressman Matt Cartwright (D) and Jim Bognet (R). The debate will simulcast live on WVIA-TV and WVIA Radio and will livestream on WVIA’s Facebook and Youtube channels as well as at wvia.org.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> WELCOME AS WVIA PRESENTS DECISION 2022, THE PENNSYLVANIA EIGHTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT DEBATE LIVE FROM THE WVIA PUBLIC MEDIA STUDIOS.
OUR MODERATOR IS LARRY VOJTKO.
[APPLAUSE] LARRY: GOOD EVENING.
WELCOME TO THE FIRST IN A SERIES OF DEBATES AMONG THE CANDIDATES FOR SEATS IN U.S. CONGRESS.
TOMORROW AT 7:00 P.M., WE WILL HOST A DEBATE BETWEEN CANDIDATES IN DISTRICT NINE.
DAN WEAVES AND AMANDA WALDMAN.
TONIGHT WE HEAR FROM THE CANDIDATES COMPETING TO REPRESENT PENNSYLVANIA'S EIGHTH DISTRICT IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
WE HAVE A THEATER HERE AT THE PUBLIC MEDIA STUDIOS.
LET'S BEGIN BY TAKING A LOOK AT THE EIGHTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.
IT ENCOMPASSES THE WILKES-BARRE AREA OF WRONG -- ALONG WITH PIKE , WAYNE COUNTY, AND MONROE COUNTY.
THE DISTRICT IS REPRESENTED BY MATT CARTWRIGHT WHO FACES REPUBLICAN CHALLENGER MR. JIM BOGNET.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT IS SEEKING HIS SIXTH TERM.
HE IS CURRENTLY A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE RECREATIONS COMMITTEE.
CHAIRMAN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON COMMERCE.
AND VICE CHAIR OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON FINANCIAL SERVICES.
HE HAS A LEADERSHIP ROLE IN THE CONGRESS AS ONE OF THE COCHAIRS OF THE DEMOCRATIC POLICY AT A CHANGES COMMITTEE.
HIS CHALLENGER, MR. JIM BOGNET SERVED IN THE DONALD TRUMP ADMINISTRATION CHARGED WITH EXPANDING AMERICAN MANUFACTURING.
HE IS CURRENTLY THE MANAGING DIRECTOR OF GRP STRATEGY, A CONSULTING PUBLIC RELATIONS FIRM.
HIS POLITICAL ACTIVITIES INCLUDE LEADING THE 2018 SENATE CAMPAIGN AS WELL AS WORKING ON THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN OF JOHN MCCAIN AND MITT ROMNEY.
THIS FORMAT FOR THE HOUR-LONG DEBATE HAS BEEN AGREED TO BY BOTH CAMPAIGNS.
EACH WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR AN OPENING STATEMENT IN TWO MINUTES FOR A CLOSING STATEMENT.
RESPONSES TO THE QUESTIONS BY THE PANELISTS WILL BE HELD TO 90 SECONDS.
MY DISCRETION AS MODERATOR, AN ADDITIONAL 30 SECONDS MAY BE ALLOTTED TO EACH CANDIDATE FOR REBUTTAL.
ALL TIMES WILL BE STRICTLY ENFORCED.
QUESTIONS ARE DEVISED BY THE INDIVIDUAL APPROACH.
I AS MODERATOR HAVE THE OPTION TO ASK A QUESTION.
AS DETERMINED BY A COIN TOSS EARLIER THIS EVENING, MR. CARTWRIGHT WILL BEGIN.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: THANK YOU, LARRY, AND ALL THE PARTNERS AND PANELISTS.
I RAN FOR CONGRESS 10 YEARS AGO TO BECOME A POWERFUL EFFECTIVE VOICE FOR NORTHEASTERN PENNSYLVANIA, AND BOY DO WE NEED THAT NOW MORE THAN EVER.
I MADE IT TO THE TOP OF THE U.S. HOUSE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
IT GIVES THE KIND OF CLOUT WE HAVEN'T HAD AN A LONG TIME.
AND OTHER WORTHY PROJECTS.
BROUGHT BACK BILLIONS FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND JOBS ACT.
AND FINALLY, THEY HAVE BEEN LAYING THERE FOR GENERATIONS.
I HAVE WORKED ACROSS THE AISLE AS A BIPARTISAN DEMOCRAT IN CONGRESS OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS.
AND I HAVE A 77.1 VOTING AVERAGE OF VOTING ALONG WITH REPUBLICANS IN THE VOTES I HAVE CAST IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
RIGHT NOW, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A POST-PANDEMIC INFLATION.
I HAVE SUPPORTED A LOT OF THINGS WE WILL TALK ABOUT TODAY TO FIGHT THE INFLATION LIKE CUTTING DRUG PRICES FOR SENIORS AND GETTING A PLANT HERE TO TURN SHALE GAS INTO REGULAR CAR GAS.
THOUSANDS OF JOBS AND CHEAPER GAS.
IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE HURTING.
HUGE CORPORATIONS IN THIS COUNTRY AND INTERNATIONAL CORPORATIONS ARE NOT HURTING AND MAKING RECORD PROFITS.
PRICE GOUGING PEOPLE.
THOSE BIG CORPORATIONS ARE NOT HURTING.
MY OPPONENT HAS BEEN A CORPORATE LOBBYING EXECUTIVE FOR A HUGE CORPORATION AND WE WILL HEAR ABOUT THAT.
LARRY: THANK YOU.
YOUR OPENING STATEMENT.
MR. BOGNET: THANK YOU TO THE MODERATORS TAKING THIS DEBATE LIVE.
I WANT TO THANK THE VOTERS FOR TUNING IN IT I THINK MR. CARTWRIGHT FOR AGREEING TO DO THIS ONE DEBATE.
I WENT TO PUBLIC SCHOOL IN PENNSYLVANIA AND GRADUATED.
I WAS SO BLESSED TO BE BORN INTO A FAMILY.
MY FATHER JAMES RUNS A SMALL BUSINESS.
MY MOTHER THERESA IS A TEACHER AND I AM PROUD OF HER.
SHE IS STILL THE LOVE OF LEARNING.
MY GRANDFATHER WAS BORN OVER 100 YEARS AGO.
AT ELLIS ISLAND IN 1911, THEY TURNED HIM INTO JIM.
MY GRANDFATHER CAME HERE FOR A DREAM WITH A BETTER LIFE.
HE LOVED THE COUNTRY SO MUCH AND HE WOULD NOT LET THEM SPEAK AT THE DINNER TABLE.
THAT'S THE KIND OF COUNTRY I WANT.
AMERICA IS OFF-TRACK.
WE HAVE GONE INTO A DITCH AND WE NEED CHANGE.
WE NEED TO INSTILL A LOVE OF COUNTRY AND A LOVE OF ADDITIONAL VALUES, HARD WORK, AND PATRIOTISM.
I AM RUNNING FOR CONGRESS TO STOP THE BIDEN CARTWRIGHT INFLATION.
I'M RUNNING TO STOP THE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS -- ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
AND I'M RUNNING TO PROTECT AMERICAN PEOPLE FROM THE CRIME WAVE UNLEASHED UNDER JOE BIDEN.
I MAKE A PROMISE TO YOU TONIGHT.
WHEN I AM YOUR CONGRESSMAN AND THREE MONTHS, I WILL FIGHT FOR YOU AND NEVER PUT THE INTEREST OF A PARTY OR A PRESIDENT ABOVE THE INTEREST OF PENNSYLVANIA.
I AM ASKING FOR YOUR VOTE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO REPRESENTING YOU.
LARRY: WE NOW MOVE ON TO THE QUESTION AND ANSWER PORTION OF THE DEBATE AND EACH PANELIST WILL BE CALLED ON.
A WELL-KNOWN POLITICS REPORTER FROM SCRANTON, YOU HAVE THE FIRST QUESTION.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: WE KNOW THAT THE TRUSTEES OF THE PROGRAMS, MORE THAN 20% BECAUSE IT WILL RUN OUT OF MONEY.
THE SOLUTION SEEMS PRETTY WELL-KNOWN.
MR. BOGNET: THEY RELY ON SOCIAL SECURITY.
YOU DESERVE IT.
WE WILL NOT LET ANYONE TOUCH IT.
LET ME TELL YOU WHAT HAS BEEN DONE THE LAST FEW YEARS.
INFLATION HAS RAN UP OVER 8% BECAUSE OF JOE BIDEN AND NANCY PELOSI.
THE SENIOR CITIZEN CALLED ME LAST WEEK AND IT COST HIM $1200 TO FILL THEIR TANK.
THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE BIDEN CARTWRIGHT INFLATION.
LET ME TELL YOU HOW I THINK WE SHOULD AFFECT SOCIAL SECURITY.
NO BENEFIT CUTS.
AND RAISING THE RETIREMENT AGE.
THIS RECESSION IS CAUSED BY THE BIDEN POLICY CARTWRIGHT INFLATION.
WE HAVE SEEN THE STOCK MARKET GET KILLED.
THIS IS REALLY HURTING AMERICA.
WE NEED ECONOMIC POLICIES STOPPING THE WAR ON OIL AND GAS.
WE WILL BE ABLE TO BRING BACK THE ECONOMIC GROWTH WE HAD THE LAST FOUR YEARS BEFORE JOE BIDEN CAME ALONG.
I WILL FIGHT FOR SENIORS.
LARRY: MR. CARTWRIGHT.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: THERE IS ONLY ONE CANDIDATE ON THE STAGE THAT HAS BEEN ENDORSED BY THE COMMITTEE TO PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE AND I AM THAT CANDIDATE.
I AM ACTUALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT YOU BROUGHT UP ABOUT SOLVENCY OF SOCIAL SECURITY.
THAT IS WHY I'M A SOCIAL SECURITY SPONSOR TO ADJUST IT, TO RAISE THE CAP SO THAT MORE PEOPLE PAY INTO IT LONGER.
AND SO THE SOLVENCY LASTS LONGER.
I OPPONENT ON THE OTHER HAND SEEMS TO HAVE FOUND ANY PITH ANY ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY BECAUSE WHEN HE WAS WRITING MITT ROMNEY'S POLICIES, HE WROTE THE PLAN FOR CUTTING SOCIAL SECURITY AND HE CALLED IT THE BIG ENCHILADA OF ENTITLEMENTS.
I OBJECT TO THAT WORD ENTITLEMENT.
IT'S LIKE PEOPLE ARE ACTING ENTITLED.
IT'S NOT THAT.
IT'S YOUR MONEY.
IT'S MONEY YOU PAID INTO IT.
AND TO HAVE SOMEBODY CALL IT THE BIG INCH A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO CUT BACK, THAT IS WHAT HE DID.
I DON'T THINK A LEOPARD CHANGE HIS SPOTS.
RICK SCOTT IS THE SENATOR FROM FLORIDA AND HE SAID THE QUIET PART OUT LOUD FOR REPUBLICANS WHEN HE SAID HE WOULD MAKE ALL FEDERAL LEGISLATION WRITTEN OFF THE BOOKS EVERY FIVE YEARS AND REENACTED.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
ELIMINATING SOCIAL SECURITY, ELIMINATING MEDICARE, ELIMINATING ALL KINDS OF RIGHTS.
LARRY: REBUTTAL?
MR. BOGNET: MATT CARTWRIGHT HAS BEEN IN OFFICE FOR 10 YEARS JOE BIDEN HAS BEEN IN OFFICE SINCE 1972 AND THEY HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING TO PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY.
THEY DON'T HAVE ONE BILL PASSED.
JUDGE A PERSON BY WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.
HE HAS NOT PROTECTED SOCIAL SECURITY.
AND WITH THE BIDEN AND PELOSI AT THE LEASH, THEY ARE HURTING OUR SENIORS.
I THINK THEY DESERVE BIGGER INCREASES.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: THIS WILL NOT BE THE LAST OF THE FALSEHOODS YOU WILL HEAR AFTER MY -- OUT OF MY OPPONENTS MOUTH.
I SUPPORTED THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT BECAUSE IT WILL REDUCE THE DEFICIT BY $200 BILLION THIS DECADE.
ALL OF THAT MONEY CAN GO TOWARDS SHORING UP SOCIAL SECURITY AND THAT IS WHAT WE INTEND FOR IT TO DO.
LARRY: LET'S MOVE ONTO THE SECOND QUESTION POSED BY LISA WASHINGTON, AN ANCHOR AT A TV NEWSCAST, AND ABC AFFILIATE.
LISA, THIS QUESTION WILL BE ANSWERED BY MR. CARTWRIGHT.
>> THE LAST SESSION AND DID WITH THE OVERTURNING OF ROE V. WADE.
WOULD YOU SUPPORT A FEDERAL BAN ON ABORTION?
WOULD YOU ALLOW FOR EXCEPTIONS?
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: THANK YOU, LISA.
WELCOME TO THE PANEL.
THE SUPREME COURT DECISION IN THE DOBBS CASE WAS AN ATTACK ON WOMEN'S RIGHTS AND REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM.
WOMEN NOT TO MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES.
BASED ON THEIR DOCTORS, THEIR FAITH.
I TRUST A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO MAKE HER OWN DECISIONS.
THAT'S WHY VOTED FOR THE WOMEN'S HEALTH PROTECTION ACT OF 2021 AND 2022.
MY OPPONENT DOES NOT.
HE WANTS TO HAVE A NATIONAL BAN ON ABORTION WITH NO EXCEPTIONS.
NO EXCEPTION FOR RAPE, NO EXCEPTION FOR INCEST.
NO EXCEPTION FOR IF THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER WILL BE LOST.
HE SIGNED A WRITTEN PLEDGE FOR THAT JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO.
AND I THINK THAT IS EXTREME.
I'M NOT THERE.
MR. BOGNET: THE MATTER HAS BEEN SENT BACK TO THE STATES AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE THE LUNGS SO I DO NOT BELIEVE WE SHOULD TAKE FEDERAL ACTION ON ABORTION.
MR. CARTWRIGHT SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED.
WHEN HE RAN 10 YEARS AGO, HE RAN WITH THE SAME POSITION I HAD.
HE WAS PRO-LIFE WITH THREE EXCEPTIONS FOR RAPE, INCEST, AND THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER.
WHEN WOMAN -- WOMEN ARE PUT IN THOSE SITUATIONS, OF COURSE WE HAVE TO MAKE EXCEPTIONS.
HE RAN FOR THAT POSITION AND IN MY HEART I BELIEVE HE STILL HAS THAT POSITION.
BUT NANCY PELOSI AND JOE BIDEN REQUIRE HIM TO BE PRO-CHOICE TO GET ELECTED.
HE VOTED AGAINST THE BORN ALIVE PROTECTION ACT.
THAT SAYS IF AN ABORTION IS BOTCHED AND THE BABY SURVIVES, YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT HEALTH CARE.
HE VOTED AGAINST THAT.
THAT IS EXTREME.
HE VOTED FOR FEDERAL FUNDING OF ABORTION.
THAT IS EXTREME.
HE HAS NEVER STOOD UP FOR SEX ELECTION ABORTION.
IF A PERSON IS HAVING A BABY THEY DON'T LIKE THE SEX OF, THEY CAN HAVE AN ABORTION.
THAT IS WRONG.
I AM PRO-LIFE.
I BELIEVE IN A CULTURE OF LIFE AND I WILL FIGHT FOR A CULTURE OF LIFE.
IT IS REALLY DISAPPOINTING THAT MATT CARTWRIGHT FOR YEARS HELD HIMSELF UP AS ONE OF THE PRO-LIFE DEMOCRATS AND IS NOW TAKING MONEY FROM NANCY PELOSI AND HAS THIS EXTREME POSITION OF ABORTION ON DEMAND UNTIL THE MOMENT OF BIRTH.
LARRY: MR. CARTWRIGHT, YOU HAVE A REBUTTAL.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: MR. -- MY OPPONENT IS ONCE AGAIN GETTING IT WRONG.
I VOTED FOR THE BORN ALIVE PROTECTION.
YOU CAN CHECK THE RECORD.
MY WIFE MARY IS IN THE OFFICE AND WE ARE BOTH CATHOLIC.
WE WOULD NOT HAVE AN ABORTION BUT I NEVER RAN TO TAKE WOMEN'S RIGHTS AWAY.
THE DOBBS DECISION IS SUCH A JARRING SEACHANGE IN AMERICAN LAW, WE DID NOT SEE THAT COMING AND I CERTAINLY NEVER CAMPAIGNED THE WAY MY OPPONENT SUGGESTS.
MR. BOGNET: I WOULD LIKE TO REBUT THAT.
FOR 10 YEARS, MATT CARTWRIGHT HAS VOTED DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT HE TELLS US.
HE STOOD ON A DEBATE STAGE IN 2012 AND 2014 AND SAID HE WOULD BE PRO-LIFE WITH THESE THREE EXCEPTIONS.
THAT IS A REASONABLE POSITION.
THERE ARE AMAZING CHALLENGES WE HAVE TO ADDRESS AND FOR HIM TO BE FOR ABORTION ON DEMAND TO THE MOMENT OF BIRTH, TO NEVER BE ABLE TO TELL US WHEN HE WOULD PROHIBIT AN ABORTION IS DISAPPOINTING.
LARRY: WE MOVE ONTO THE THIRD QUESTION.
THE THIRD ROUND OF QUESTION IS ROGER.
FROM A NEWSPAPER IN WILKES-BARRE.
THIS QUESTION WILL FIRST BE ANSWERED BY MR. BOGNER AT.
-- BOGNET.
>> 70% OF VOTERS ARE DISSATISFIED WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNTRY.
REGARDING THE ECONOMY AND INFLATION, WHAT SHOULD THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE FEDERAL RESERVE DO DIFFERENTLY?
MR. BOGNET: IF YOU ARE NOT UPSET ABOUT THE STATE OF OUR COUNTRY, YOU ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION.
WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP LEFT OFFICE, GAS WAS TWO DOLLARS A GALLON.
NOW IT'S OVER FOUR DOLLARS A GALLON.
RENT IS OUT OF CONTROL.
WE ARE IN A DITCH BECAUSE OF THE BIDEN CARTWRIGHT LUCY INFLATION.
-- PELOSI INFLATION.
THEY CAME INTO OFFICE.
PRESIDENT BIDEN, HIS MENTOR, AND PASSED THESE BILLS.
$6 TRILLION IN NEW SPENDING.
THAT CAUSES INFLATION.
THE FEDERAL RESERVE KEPT INTEREST RATES.
BUT WHAT MATT AND JOE REALLY DID IS DECLARE WAR ON THE AMERICAN ENERGY INDUSTRY.
THEY TRIED TO SHUT DOWN THE KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE.
THEY PULLED FEDERAL DRILLING FROM FEDERAL LANDS.
MATT GOES OUT AND SAYS I SUPPORTED GAS PLANT.
THAT GAS PLANT IS IMAGINARY.
IT MIGHT BE BUILT IN FIVE YEARS IF WE ARE LUCKY AND HE DID NOT DO ANYTHING FOR IT ANYWAY.
HE STANDS WITH THE GREEN NEW DEAL LUNATICS AND VOTES WITH THEM TIME AND TIME AGAIN AGAINST AMERICAN ENERGY.
WE NEED AMERICAN OIL FROM AMERICAN SOIL.
HIS PARTY, HIS SPEAKER, HIS PRESIDENT HATE AMERICAN ENERGY.
I LOVE AMERICAN ENERGY AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE DRILLING MORE FOR NATURAL GAS.
HE WANTS TO BAN FRACKING.
LET'S GET IT ON.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: MY OPPONENT SEEMS TO BE CONFUSED ABOUT WHO HE IS RUNNING AGAINST.
HE IS RUNNING AGAINST MATT CARTWRIGHT, NOT NANCY PELOSI OR JOE BIDEN OR ILL HUNT OMAR.
-- ILHAN OMAR.
INFLATION IS PAINFUL AND WE KNEW BIG OIL WAS TAKING ADVANTAGE, PROFITEERING ON PEOPLE LIVING PAYCHECK-TO-PAYCHECK.
WE KNEW BIG SHIPPING WAS DRIVING UP THEIR PRICES.
I VOTED FOR A CRACKDOWN ON PROFITEERING.
A BIG PART OF IT IS CHINESE CHIPS.
I VOTED TO BRING IT ALL BACK FROM CHINA SO WE COULD MAKE IT IN AMERICA.
WE KNOW WE NEED MORE GAS TO BRING PRICES DOWN AT THE PUMP AND I AM HELPING BRING THE PLANT TO LUCERNE COUNTY.
THOUSANDS OF JOBS AND CHEAPER GAS, LOCAL PIPELINES.
BY JANUARY, SENIORS DRUG COSTS ARE GOING TO BE COMING DOWN.
HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE COMING DOWN AS WELL.
MY OPPONENT RIGHT HERE SAYS HE WOULD HAVE VOTED AGAINST ALL OF THAT.
HE WOULD HAVE VOTED AGAINST THOSE PRICE CUTS FOR SENIOR MEDICATION.
AND WE KNOW WHY.
IT ANGERS HIS PALS.
IT BIG OIL, BIG PHARMA, AND CHINESE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES .
MR. BOGNET: THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING NANCY PELOSI COULD HAVE WRITTEN FOR YOU.
HAVE YOU SEEN PRICE CUTS IN PHARMACEUTICAL PRICES?
HAVE YOU SEEN PRICE CUTS IN OIL AND GAS?
I HAVE NOT SEEN THESE PHANTOM PRICE CUTS.
HE'S A REALLY GOOD LAWYER.
HE'S REALLY FANTASTIC.
HE COULD SELL ICE TO AN ESKIMO.
THE COUNTRY IS IN A DITCH.
WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS?
LARRY: WE MOVE ON TO ROUND NUMBER TWO OF QUESTIONS.
LISA WASHINGTON WILL BEGIN THIS ROUND.
THE QUESTION WILL FIRST GO TO MR. CARTWRIGHT.
>> CITIES ARE WORKING TOWARD BANNING GUNS IN PUBLIC PLACES LIKE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND PLAYGROUNDS.
DO YOU BELIEVE INDIVIDUAL CITIES SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO MAKE THEIR OWN GUN LAWS OR SHOULD THAT DECISION BE MADE AT THE FEDERAL OR STATE LEVEL?
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: I THINK WE CAN HAVE LOCAL CONTROL OVER GUN ACCESS.
THE LARGER POINT THAT WE DEAL WITH IS GUN SAFETY LAWS.
THERE'S JUST NO QUESTION.
TO REMAIN STATIC AND NOT CHANGE ANYTHING IN THE WAKE OF HORRIBLE SHOOTINGS.
I WAS SITTING NEXT TO A LADY.
HER CELL PHONE WENT OFF.
I SAW THE BLOOD DRAIN FROM HER FACE.
IT WAS ELIZABETH, THE NEWLY ELECTED CONGRESSWOMAN FROM NEWTOWN, CONNECTICUT.
FOR 20 LITTLE KIDS.
WE HAVE SEVERAL THINGS WITH GUN SAFETY LAWS AND FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO DO THEM.
I AM A HUNTER AND I'M NOT INTERESTED IN SWEEPING UP PEOPLES GUNS BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP GUNS IN SAFE HANDS.
MR. BOGNET: HE JUST MADE THE ARGUMENT WHY YOU SHOULD NOT SEND HIM BACK TO WASHINGTON.
2012 WAS SANDY HOOK, 2016 WAS PARKLAND AND WE SAW LAS VEGAS.
THIS YEAR WE HAVE SEEN UVALDE.
THIS IS BARBARIC AND IT IS A TRAGEDY.
AND IN 10 YEARS, MATT CARTWRIGHT HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING TO STOP IT.
THEY KEEP COMING AND COMING.
HE'S ASKING FOR TWO MORE YEARS AS IF HE WILL GET ANYTHING DONE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS THAT DID NOT GET DONE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
MATT CARTWRIGHT JUST SAID WE SHOULD HAVE LOCAL CONTROL FOR GUNS.
OK, GUN OWNERS AND PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
SCRANTON COULD OUTLAW YOU FROM HAVING A WEAPON WHILE EXETER COULD ALLOW YOU.
HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
WE NEED TO CRACK DOWN ON PEOPLE WHO COMMIT CRIMES WITH GUNS.
WE NEED TO CRACKDOWN ON ILLEGAL GUNS.
EVERYDAY I WATCH THE NEWS FROM PHILADELPHIA LATE AT NIGHT AND THERE ARE SHOOTINGS AND ARE JACKING'S AND IT IS HARD.
YOU KNOW WHO ARE DOING THOSE?
CRIMINALS WAS STOLEN AND UNREGISTERED GUNS.
WE NEED A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT IS RUN BY HIS PAL JOE BIDEN THAT WILL CRACKDOWN AND STOP THAT.
PROSECUTORS ARE LETTING PEOPLE OUT OF JAIL WITHOUT ANY BAIL.
WE ARE HAVING A CRIME WAVE THAT STARTED IN THE SUMMER OF 2020 WHEN MATT CARTWRIGHT DID NOT SUPPORT OUR POLICE, THEY SUPPORTED THE ANTIFA RIOTERS.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: WHAT'S CRAZY IS THAT MY OPPONENT KEEPS TRYING TO STRAP ME TO THIS DEFUNDING THE POLICE IDEA.
HE ACTUALLY SPLICED AN AUDIO TAPE OF ME, ONE OF THE MOST DISHONEST ACTS I HAVE EVER SEEN.
A YOUNG PERSON ASKED ME ABOUT DEFUNDING LAW ENFORCEMENT AND I SAID NO.
A PERSON ASKED ME A DIFFERENT QUESTION WHERE THE ANSWER WAS YES.
MY OPPONENT DOCTORED THE TAPE TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE I SAID YES TO THE DEFUNDING THE POLICE WEST IN.
ONE OF THE MOST DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE THINGS I'VE EVER HEARD.
MR. BOGNET: THAT IS A NEW YORK LAWYER LIE.
I TOOK THE AUDIO FROM HIS SPEECH TO THE BLACK SCRANTON PROJECT, A RADICAL PRO-CRIME UNIT AND I PUT IT ON TV.
CAN YOU IMAGINE TALKING TO A GROUP LIKE THAT?
THIS MAN SET ON STAGE WITH JOHN FETTERMAN, THE MOST PRO-CRIME LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR WHO LETS MURDERERS OUT OF JAIL ON PAROLE.
HE STOOD ON STAGE AND HUGGED HIM.
I WILL ALWAYS FIGHT FOR POLICE OFFICERS.
LARRY: WE DO HAVE TO MOVE ON.
ROGER HAS THE NEXT QUESTION AND WILL POSE IT FIRST TO MR. BOGNET.
>> SHOULD THE UNITED STATES CONTINUE FUNDING UKRAINIAN WAR EFFORTS?
DO YOU BELIEVE A NUCLEAR COUNTERSTRIKE WOULD BE JUSTIFIED?
MR. BOGNET: UKRAINE IS A HORRIBLE SITUATION AND TWO MEN ARE TO BLAME.
THE FIRST ONE IS EASY TO SEE.
VLADIMIR PUTIN.
HE LAUNCHED AN UNPROVOKED ATTACK AND IT IS HORRIBLE AND I CONDEMN THAT ATTACK.
THE SECOND MAN IS JOE BIDEN.
JOE BIDEN PULLED OUT OF AFGHANISTAN AND MADE 13 MORE STAR -- FULL STAR FAMILIES COME INTO BEING BECAUSE WE LEFT 13 HEROES IN AFGHANISTAN.
HE BROADCAST WEAKNESS TO VLADIMIR PUTIN.
WHEN THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENT WAS IN OFFICE, VLADIMIR PUTIN DID NOT INVADE UKRAINE AT ALL.
HE HAS TWICE GOT INTO UKRAINE.
ONCE WHEN BARACK OBAMA WAS PRESIDENT AND ONCE WHEN HIS CLOSE FRIEND JOE BIDEN TOOK OFFICE.
WE MUST SUPPORT UKRAINE AS THEY RESIST RUSSIAN AGGRESSION.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE $80 BILLION THAT HAS BEEN SPENT.
IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
IF IT IS BEING SPENT WISELY, I WOULD SUPPORT IT.
I AM VERY WORRIED ABOUT THE SAFEGUARDS.
MATT CARTWRIGHT IN NANCY PELOSI BELIEVE THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING IS SPENDING MONEY.
IF WE ARE GOING TO SPEND $80 BILLION, WE HAD BETTER MAKE SURE THERE IS OVERSIGHT.
WE SHOULD REMEMBER WHO IS TO BLAME.
WE MUST STAND WITH THE UKRAINIANS AGAINST RUSSIAN AGGRESSION AND I THINK MATT AND I PROBABLY AGREE ON THE SPECIFIC THINGS DONE TO SUPPORT UKRAINE.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: WHEN MY OPPONENT STOOD UP.
GIVE YOU THE BALD-FACED LIE THAT HE PROPERLY RAN AN AUDIOTAPE OF ME, IT WASN'T A PROPER AUDIOTAPE.
IT WAS A DELIBERATE ACT OF DISHONESTY.
THE SPLICED TAPE THAT WAS DOCTORED EARNED A FALSE RATING FROM THE FACT AND WHEN THEY WENT ON CONTINUING TO DENY THAT THEY HAD SPLICED THE TAPE TO DOCTORED IT, PULLED EFFECT GAVE THIS MAN A PANTS ON FIRE RATING.
A PANTS ON FIRE RATING.
JIM, THAT IS AMAZING BECAUSE I'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE RUN AGAINST ME AND NOBODY HAS EARNED THAT KIND OF CREDENTIAL.
WHEN PEOPLE SHOW YOU WHO THEY ARE, BELIEVE THEM THE FIRST TIME.
LARRY: TRY NOT TO TALK OVER EACH OTHER.
THE QUESTION IS ABOUT UKRAINE.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: I FAVOR MORE AID FOR UKRAINE THAT I DON'T FAVOR GIVING THEM A BLANK CHECK.
I'M HAPPY WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR BUT WE HAVE TO MONITOR IT CLOSELY.
LARRY: THE NEXT QUESTION AND FIRST ANSWER IS MR. CARTWRIGHT.
>> WE ARE A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS.
DO YOU IN FAVOR OF BUILDING A BORDER WALL ALONG THE BORDER TO MEXICO?
AND FIGURING OUT A WAY TO ALLOW MILLIONS OF UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS ACHIEVE CITIZENSHIP OR REACH LEGAL STATUS.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: THERE IS CLEARLY A CRISIS ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER.
IT HAS BEEN GOING ON DURING THE LAST THREE ADMINISTRATIONS.
I SUPPORT ENFORCING THE RULE OF LAW AND PROUD TO HAVE SUPPORTED TWO MAJOR BORDER SECURITY BILLS SIGNED INTO LAW BY PRESIDENT TRUMP TO INCREASE BORDER PATROL FUNDING, FIGHT DRUG TRAFFICKING, AND SECURE OUR BORDER.
EVEN THOUGH SOME IN MY OWN PARTY DID NOT SUPPORT THOSE THINGS.
I VOTED FOR $1 BILLION TO BUILD A WALL ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER.
PENALTIES FOR VIOLENT CRIMINALS THAT INTO THE U.S.
ILLEGALLY AFTER BEING DEPORTED, I WAS ONE OF 24 DEMOCRATS THAT VOTED FOR THAT.
I VOTED WITH THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AND THE ATTEMPT TO LIFT THE RESTRICTIONS ON PROCESSING APPLICATIONS.
THE BORDER IS TECHNICALLY CLOSED BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND WE ARE NOT READY TO PROCESS THOSE APPLICATIONS YET.
TO FINISH SECURING OUR BORDER AND MAKE TAXPAYERS OF THE PEOPLE LIVING AND WORKING IN THE SHADOWS.
WHAT YOU NEED FOR THAT IS PEOPLE WILLING TO WORK ACROSS THE AISLE.
PEOPLE LIKE ME ARE WILLING TO WORK ACROSS THE AISLE.
WHAT WE HAVE IS SOMEONE WHO WILL NEVER WORK WITH DEMOCRATS.
MR. BOGNET: 10 YEARS OF EXCUSES FROM MATT CARTWRIGHT ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
HE HAS THE WORST RECORD OF ANYONE THAT HAS EVER REPRESENTED OUR AREA.
THE MAN THAT CAME UP WITH THE CONCEPT FOR THE BORDER WALL WAS DONALD J. TRUMP.
HE SUPPORTED MY CAMPAIGN.
THIS IS WHAT HE SAID ABOUT MATT CARTWRIGHT.
MATT CARTWRIGHT IS A DISASTER ON IMMIGRATION AND OPPOSED THE BORDER WALL.
HE DID EVERYTHING HE COULD TO GET PRESIDENT TRUMP OUT OF OFFICE AND STOP THAT BORDER WALL FROM BEING BUILT.
WE FOUGHT TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
MATT CARTWRIGHT'S RECORD IS SO BAD, HE LOVED AMNESTY EVEN MORE THAN HE LOVES JOE BIDEN.
WHEN I'M IN OFFICE, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE STOPPING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION ONE OF OUR BIGGEST DEALS.
PENNSYLVANIA HAS BEEN DEVASTATED BY ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
OVER 60% OF THE PEOPLE HAVE ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE INSTRUCTION.
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS BRINGING SENTINEL, DRUGS, CRIME, AND THEY ARE POISONING OUR CITIES.
AND HE FIGHTS AGAINST THE BORDER WALL.
WE NEED A BORDER WALL AND INCREASED INTERIOR ENFORCEMENT.
WE NEED INCREASED PENALTIES FOR ENFORCEMENT.
JOE BIDEN SAID THE BORDER IS OPEN AND MATT CARTWRIGHT EVEN VOTED FOR $1200 STIMULUS CHECKS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
HE GAVE YOUR MONEY TO ILLEGALS.
I SAY ILLEGALS, PLEASE GO HOME.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: THIS IS EXACTLY HOW CORPORATE LOBBYING EXECUTIVES FROM D.C. TALK.
THAT'S HOW THEY TALK.
THAT'S WHY TOLD YOU THAT STORY ABOUT THE FALSE RATING IN THE PANTS ON FIRE RATING.
NOBODY GETS A PANTS ON FIRE FROM POLITICAL FACT AND HE GOT IT BECAUSE OF THE LIES THAT CONSTANTLY TRUNDLED OUT OF HIS MOUTH AGAIN AND AGAIN.
AND HERE'S THE THING.
WHEN PEOPLE SHOW YOU WHO THEY ARE, BELIEVE THEM THE FIRST TIME.
REMEMBER WHO HE IS.
LARRY: I WANT TO CAUTION THE AUDIENCE TO REALLY RESTRAIN YOURSELF FROM MAKING ANY SORT OF VERBAL REACTIONS.
JUST MAINTAIN THE DECORUM WE HAVE SET FOR THIS DEBATE.
MR. BOGNET: I AGREE WITH YOU.
WHEN PEOPLE SHOW YOU WHO THEY ARE, BELIEVE THEM.
HE SHOWED AS HE IS WEAK ON IMMIGRATION.
HE LOVES JOE BIDEN AND NANCY PELOSI.
HE PUTS THE INTEREST OF ILLEGALS OVER THE INTEREST OF AMERICAN CITIZENS.
WE MUST BUILD A BORDER WALL.
I WILL EAT MY SHOE IF MATT CARTWRIGHT WILL EVER VOTE FOR A BORDER WALL.
HE STANDS WITH POLICY AND BIDEN 100% OF THE TIME.
HE IS A WHOLLY-OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF JOE BIDEN.
LARRY: WE MOVE ON TO THE THIRD ROUND OF QUESTIONS.
AND ROGER WILL BEGIN THIS ROUND.
MR. BOGNET WILL ANSWER FIRST.
>> A SIGNIFICANT MAJORITY SUPPORTS THE RIGHT OF SAME-SEX COUPLES FOR -- TO MARRY.
WOULD YOU SUPPORT FEDERAL LEGISLATION UNDER THE LAW?
MR. BOGNET: THE SUPREME COURT MAKES OUR DECISION ON WHAT THE CONSTITUTION SAYS HAS WEIGHED IN AND HAVE ALLOWED SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.
I WILL DO NOTHING TO TRY TO CHANGE THAT.
IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, THAT WAS A DECISION THE SUPREME COURT MADE.
HERE'S WHAT I WILL FOCUS ON.
I THINK TEACHING TRANSGENDER STUFF OUR SCHOOLCHILDREN IS HARMFUL.
ALLOWING THE TEACHING OF ANY KIND OF SEXUALITY TO OUR STUDENTS IS HARMFUL.
I HOPE MATT WOULD AGREE WITH ME ON THAT.
WE HAVE SEEN AN AMAZING THING IN OUR COUNTRY.
DRAG QUEEN STORY HOUR.
A MAN IN A POOL WITH WOMEN AND WANTING TO STEAL TROPHIES OFF OF THEM?
WHERE HAVE WE GONE?
WHEN I WAS IN OFFICE, WE TALKED ABOUT A CULTURE WHERE EVERYONE WAS CREATED EQUALLY AND WE TRIED TO PROTECT CHILDREN.
WE ARE NOT PROTECTING OUR CHILDREN.
IF YOU THINK OUR CHILDREN SHOULD BE EXPOSED TO TRANSGENDER IDEOLOGY AND BE EXPOSED TO SEXUALITY TEACHING WHEN THEY ARE SIX YEARS OLD, YOU SHOULD BE IN JAIL.
THAT'S WHERE I WILL PUT MY EFFORTS.
WE DESERVE EQUAL RIGHTS UNDER THE CONSTITUTION FOR EVERYBODY.
WE HAVE TO WAKE UP AS A COUNTRY.
EVERY DAY YOU SEE IT AND IT'S HAPPENING.
THEY ARE LETTING DRAG QUEENS IN.
NANCY PELOSI HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING.
MATT CARTWRIGHT HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: HERE COME THE CULTURE WARS AGAIN AND IT'S ALL A BIG DISTRACTION FROM THE MAIN PLAY THAT'S GOING ON.
THE BIG CORPORATIONS, MANY OF THEM PAY LITTLE OR NO TAXES EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE MAKING RECORD PROFITS AND THEY HAVE PEOPLE LIKE THIS SHILLING FOR THEM DOWN IN WASHINGTON.
SURE, I SUPPORT MARRIAGE EQUALITY.
I HAVE FOR OVER 10 YEARS.
AND I WOULD VOTE TO CODIFY THAT AS WELL.
BUT DON'T LET THESE CULTURE WARS DISTRACT YOU BECAUSE WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS VOTING AGAINST REDUCING DRUG PRICES.
HIS BIGGEST DAUGHTER -- DONOR IS A $160,000 DONOR.
THAT'S WHY HE'S DISTRACTING YOU.
THE BIG PICTURE IS THAT YOU ARE GETTING GOUGED AT THE PUMP FOR GASOLINE PRICES.
IT IS EATEN UP BY MEDICARE PART D. BIG PHARMA HAS MADE IT ILLEGAL TO NEGOTIATE DRUG PRICES.
MR. BOGNET: IT'S NOT A CULTURE WAR, IT'S A WAR ON OUR CULTURE AND TRADITIONAL VALUES.
AND NANCY PELOSI AND ADAM SCHIFF HAS BEEN WAGING THE WAR.
HE ATTACKS ME ON CORPORATIONS?
HE HAS TAKEN MORE MONEY.
TOMORROW NIGHT, NANCY PELOSI IS HAVING A FUNDRAISER.
MAYBE THEY WILL LET YOU BE ON THE CALL.
ADAM SCHIFF, NANCY PELOSI, AT 20 RICH PEOPLE.
LARRY: WE WILL POST THE NEXT QUESTION AND MR. CARTWRIGHT WILL BE THE FIRST TO ANSWER.
>> EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE.
PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET HEALTH CARE WITHOUT GOING BANKRUPT.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE SUBJECTS AND IT'S ABOUT HEALTH CARE.
I FIRST RAN TO SUPPORT THE PATIENT PROTECTION AND AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR LOCAL HOSPITALS AND I HAVE LEARNED HOW HEALTH CARE FINANCE WORKS.
WHEN PEOPLE SHOW UP ON INSURED, HOSPITALS HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO TREAT THEM AND STABILIZE THEM SO THEY DON'T GO HOME AND BLEED TO DEATH.
HOSPITALS TAKE IT ON THE CHIN FOR THAT IF PEOPLE ARE UNINSURED.
THE MORE PEOPLE WE GET INSURED, THE MORE SOUND FINANCIAL FOOTING IS.
THEY ACCEPTED THE MEDICAID EXPANSION UNDER THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
SAINT CATHERINE'S AND THE MARION COMMUNITY HOSPITAL.
HEALTH CARE COVERAGE IS ALL THEORETICAL.
YOU MIGHT GET SICK.
IF YOU ARE HAVING A STROKE, INSTEAD OF 15 MINUTES, IT TAKES 45 MINUTES TO GET THERE.
THAT MAKES A REAL, TANGIBLE DIFFERENCE IN YOUR OUTCOME.
MY AIM IS TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE COVERED AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT GIVES US LOCAL, STRONG, FINANCIALLY SOUND HOSPITALS.
MR. BOGNET: A SENIOR CITIZEN SAID TO ME TWO MONTHS AGO, DO NOT LET THEM BRING MEDICARE FOR ALL AND BECAUSE IT MEANS MY MEDICARE WILL NOT BE AS GOOD.
THAT MEANS LETTING PEOPLE OF ALL AGES INTO MEDICARE AND THAT WILL HURT SENIORS.
THEY WORK FOR THEIR MEDICARE.
HE WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL AND GREW UP IN CANADA AND MUST'VE GONE TO THE SAME SCHOOL AS JUSTIN TRUDEAU BECAUSE HIS HEALTH CARE POLICY SOUNDS SIMILAR.
WE DO NOT NEED SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.
I AM PASSIONATE ON REFORMING MEDICARE AND MEDICAID.
HERE IS WHAT WE NEED.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE PRICE OF THE PROCEDURE WOULD BE.
YOU KNOW HOW MUCH OF BURRITO COSTS.
HE ACCEPTED $1 BILLION FROM THE BIGGEST INSURANCE COMPANIES IN THE COUNTRY.
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR THE ATTACK ADS AGAINST ME.
I WANT TRANSPARENCY AND OUR HEALTH CARE COSTS.
WANT TO FIGHT TO PROTECT MEDICARE AND WE WILL BRING HEALTH CARE COSTS DOWN.
THIS MEDICARE FOR ALL PROPOSAL, BERNIE SANDERS AND JOHN FETTERMAN.
SENIORS ACROSS THE COUNTRY WILL DIE BECAUSE OF MEDICARE FOR ALL.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: I MAKE NO SECRET THAT I LIKE MEDICARE FOR ALL BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE IN A WAY THAT DOES NOT HURT EXISTING ENROLLEES BENEFITS.
DOES NOT HURT THE PROVIDERS.
THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A LIVING.
AND DOES NOT HURT THE HOSPITAL.
WE HAVE MORE WORK TO DO ON THAT BUT I WANT COVERAGE FOR AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.
AS FAR AS PAYING FOR ATTACK ADS, MY OPPONENTS ATTACK ADS ARE PAID FOR BY DARK MONEY SUPER PAC'S AND WE ARE NOT EVEN SURE IT'S AMERICAN MONEY.
MR. BOGNET: LOOK AT THE COMPANY HE KEEPS.
HE VOTES WITH NANCY PELOSI HAD JOE BIDEN 100% OF THE TIME.
I WILL START CALLING HIM MR. 100%.
IF NANCY PELOSI BRINGS UP MEDICARE FOR ALL, MATT CARTWRIGHT WILL VOTE FOR IT.
WE NEED AN INDEPENDENT VOICE IN WASHINGTON THAT WILL FIGHT FOR MEDICAL TRANSPARENCY.
YOU DESERVE TO KNOW THE PRICE YOU PAY.
MY MOTHER IS A DIABETIC.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WILL COST WHEN SHE SIGNS UP TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL TO GET TREATMENT.
LARRY: I WILL ALLOW A REBUTTAL.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: DON'T FALL FOR THIS 100% BS.
I VOTE 77% OF THE TIME WITH REPUBLICANS WHO VOTED THE SAME WAY.
LARRY: WE ARE AT THE END OF ROUND THREE.
THE FIRST ANSWER WILL BE MR. BOGNET.
>> THE HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE ATTACK ON THE U.S. CAPITAL VOTED TO SUBPOENA FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP.
EVIDENCE THAT THEY DISCOVERED THE ACTIONS FOLLOWING THE 2020 ELECTION AND LEADING UP TO JANUARY 6, 2021.
SHOULD THE FORMER PRESIDENT TESTIFY BEFORE THE COMMITTEE?
MR. BOGNET: WE WILL HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE LEGAL SYSTEM SAYS ABOUT THAT.
THAT IS A LEGAL WESTERN.
WE SHOULD NOT POLITICIZE THESE MATTERS AS JOE BIDEN HAS DONE AND MR. CARTWRIGHT HAS DONE.
THE MAN ACROSS FROM ME VOTED TO IMPEACH HIM TWICE.
HE HATES PRESIDENT TRUMP.
YOU KNOW WHAT'S REALLY AMAZING?
HE DID AN AD WEEK WHERE THERE WAS A MAN WEARING A MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN HAT SAYING HE LIKES MATT CARTWRIGHT.
FOR HIM TO STAND WITH THE JOE BIDEN WHILE JOE BIDEN CALLS ME AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO SUPPORTED PRESIDENT TRUMP A SEMI FASCIST IS SHAMEFUL.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT A SEMI FASCIST IS, MAYBE IT'S LIKE A SEMI COLON WHERE NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS OR WHAT IT DOES.
HE REALLY MUST THINK WE ARE STUPID.
THAT MAN IS A LIFELONG DEMOCRAT.
HE WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE MONROE COUNTY DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
HE RAN EIGHT TIMES IN DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES AND VOTED IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES AND HE HAS GIVEN A LOT OF MONEY TO DEMOCRATS.
MATT CARTWRIGHT PLAYS DIRTY AND HE PLAYS ROUGH.
AND HE HAD A DEMOCRAT PUT ON A MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN HAT TO TRY TO FOOL YOU.
MATT CARTWRIGHT'S TIME IS UP SOON AND HIS TIME IN CONGRESS IS UP SOON.
LARRY: MR. CARTWRIGHT.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: THAT IS UTTERLY FOES.
JOHN PETROZO IS THE NAME OF THE MAN.
HE'S A TERRIFIC GUY.
HE LOVES DONALD TRUMP THROUGH AND THROUGH.
HE THINKS IT'S ALL PHONY.
IT'S NOT PHONY.
JOHN IS A GREAT GUY AND HE WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO ANYBODY.
I DON'T HATE DONALD TRUMP.
I DON'T HATE ANYBODY.
I DISAGREED WITH HIM AND I HAVE AGREED WITH HIM.
HE HAD IT COMING.
I DIDN'T IMPEACH HIM BECAUSE I HATE HIM.
ALL THE SUCCESS THE UKRAINIANS ARE HAVING WITH THE JAVELIN MISSILES AGAINST RUSSIAN AGGRESSION, MR. TRUMP HELD THAT UP TO TRY TO GET DIRT ON JOE BIDEN.
I DID NOT THINK THAT WAS RIGHT.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE.
I DON'T HATE ANYBODY.
I DON'T EVEN HATE DONALD TRUMP.
THERE ARE THINGS I LIKE ABOUT DONALD TRUMP.
YOU KNOW 13 PEOPLE A DAY DIE IN THIS COUNTRY WAITING FOR A KIDNEY DONATION AND I HAVE BEEN PUSHING A BILL I HAD TO MAKE IT EASIER TO DONATE A KIDNEY AND GET SOME OF THE EXPENSES REIMBURSED AND PRESIDENT TRUMP LIKE THAT AND HE TURNED MY BILL INTO AN EXECUTIVE ORDER AND HE SIGNED IT.
AND HE INVITED ME TO THE CEREMONY.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOOD.
HE ALSO SIGNED MY BILL, THE VETERANS CARE FOR THE FINANCIAL PROTECTION ACT OF 2017.
THEY GAVE ME ADVOCATE OF THE YEAR.
LARRY: REBUTTAL?
MR. BOGNET: IF YOU LIKE PRESIDENT TRUMP SO MUCH, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CALL UP YOUR BEST FRIEND JOE BIDEN AND TELL HIM TO STOP CALLING EVERY TRUMP SUPPORTER IN AMERICA A FASCIST.
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO STOP STANDING ON STAGE WITH JOE BIDEN WHEN HE ATTACKS HALF OF THIS COUNTRY.
I WOULD LIKE YOU WITH THIS DEATHBED CONVERSION TO WAKE UP AND APOLOGIZE TO EVERYBODY IN THIS AUDIENCE WHO VOTED FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP AND WHO WANTS TO SEE A BETTER FUTURE.
DON'T TRY TO FOOL THE PEOPLE ANYMORE THAT YOU'RE A TRUMP SUPPORTER.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: I DENY THAT I AM ON MY DEATHBED.
[LAUGHTER] I NEVER SAID TRUMP WAS A FASCIST.
LARRY: WE ARE QUICKLY RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
WE HAVE JUST ABOUT ENOUGH TIME TO GET THROUGH ONE MORE QUESTION.
WILL YOU ASK THE FINAL QUESTION TODAY?
THE FIRST WANT TO GET THIS QUESTION WILL BE MR. CARTWRIGHT.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT BOTH OF YOU SAID YOU FAVORED MORE EXPLORATION FOR OIL AND GAS.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: YES TO THE FIRST QUESTION.
CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL.
UNFORTUNATELY.
AND WE FEEL IT AROUND HERE.
THE FLOOD RATES ARE RISING AND MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE SUBJECT TO FLOODPLAIN AND INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS.
I LIKE THAT WE ARE INVESTING IN RENEWABLE TECHNOLOGY.
BUT WE ARE NOT THERE YET.
I NEVER SAID I WOULD BAN FRACKING.
THAT WAS NEVER TRUE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THAT, SUNSHINE.
WE NEED THAT ENERGY, BRIDGE ENERGY BECAUSE EVERYBODY SEES WHAT HAPPENS WHEN GASOLINE GOES UP.
IT'S A REAL HARDSHIP ON EVERYBODY.
IT REALLY HURTS.
PEOPLE HAVE TO DRIVE TO WORK AT DRIVE THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL.
IT AFFECTS EVERYTHING THAT WE BUY.
EVERYTHING THAT WE MAKE.
THEY HAD TO SHIP IT WITH ENERGY.
PRICE GOUGING BY THE OIL COMPANIES WAS A BIG TARGET OF MINE.
THAT'S NOT A REASON TO STOP USING HYDROCARBONS RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO RAMP UP RENEWABLES.
MR. BOGNET: I DO BELIEVE CLIMATE IS CHANGING AND WE SHOULD GO AFTER THE CHINESE.
THE CHINESE ARE THE NUMBER ONE EMITTERS OF CARBON GAS IN THE WORLD.
THEY ARE BUILDING COAL PLANTS, GAS PLANTS.
IT IS REALLY AMAZING.
HE IS A GREEN RAW DEAL GUY.
HE FLIES A JET TO WASHINGTON EVERY WEEK.
EVERYBODY'S CAR IN THE STUDIO COMBINED, MATT CARTWRIGHT KEPT FLYING THE JET.
WE ARE NOT GIVING HIM A CHOICE.
WE WILL RETIRE HIM FROM OFFICE AND PARK THE JET.
HE CHARGES THE TAXPAYERS TO PARK THAT JET.
IF THERE'S ONE THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT WHO IS LYING AND WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH, HE FOCUSED ON A FACT-CHECK.
I WANT TO FOCUS ON A FACT-CHECK.
ON MATT CARTWRIGHT.
CARTWRIGHT VOTES WITH BIDEN 100% OF THE TIME.
THE FACT-CHECK SAID THAT IS 100% TRUE.
HERE THEY ARE MUGGING IT UP FOR THE CAMERA.
DOESN'T HE LOOK HAPPY STANDING WITH JOE BIDEN?
HE STANDS WITH JOE BIDEN, NANCY PELOSI, AND THE LIBERALS IN CONGRESS.
I STAND WITH YOU AND I WILL FIGHT FOR YOU.
LARRY: WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR A REBUTTAL.
AND SO WE MOVE ON TO THE FINAL STATEMENT.
YOU EACH HAVE TWO MINUTES.
CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT: YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT REPORTING, THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN REPORTING ON THE CHARGES ABOUT MR. BOGNET WORKING FOR A FIRM RAKING IT IN FROM THE SAUDI'S AND LOBBYING AGAINST THE AMERICAN VICTIMS OF 9/11.
HE CLAIMS HE WASN'T AWARE OF IT.
THE QUESTION IS, LOBBYING AGAINST THE VICTIMS OF 9/11 BECAUSE THEY HAD TO MAKE A PUBLIC FILING OF IT UNDER THE FEDERAL AGENTS REPORTING ACT.
THEY HAD TO MAKE A PUBLIC FILING ON WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND WHO THEY WERE DOING IT FOR AND HOW MUCH THEY WERE PAID TO DO IT.
THEY FILED IT.
THEY TOLD THE WORLD THAT THEY WERE MAKING 100 $50,000 A MONTH FROM THE SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY TO LOBBY AGAINST THE VICTIMS OF 9/11.
THEY KEPT IT SECRET FROM THEIR VICE PRESIDENT?
IN THE FILING, THEY SAID THE WORK THAT THAT FIRM DID INCLUDED COMMUNICATIONS WORK AND THAT WAS HIS DEPARTMENT.
SO WHEN HE TELLS YOU I DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, THAT'S A BUNCH OF BS.
HE KNEW ABOUT IT.
WHEN HE WENT TO WORK FOR THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, THAT 57-DAY STENT HE HAD AT THE IMPORT EXPORT BANK, HE WAS SUPPOSED TO FILL OUT A FORM ABOUT WHERE HE HAD BEEN WORKING AND HE NEVER FILLED IT OUT.
AND I SUGGEST TO YOU THAT HE DID NOT FILL IT OUT BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT PRESIDENT TRUMP TO KNOW WHAT HE HAD BEEN UP TO HELPING THIS FIRM LOBBY AGAINST THE AMERICAN VICTIMS OF 9/11 ON BEHALF OF THE SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY.
HE DID NOT TELL TRUMP BECAUSE HE DID NOT KNOW HOW BAD IT WOULD MAKE HIM LOOK.
LARRY: YOUR FINAL STATEMENT?
MR. BOGNET: MATT'S DESPERATE AND HE KNOWS IT'S ALL OVER.
SO HE LIES.
I'VE NEVER BEEN A LOBBYIST AND I DON'T KNOW ANY SAUDI ARABIANS.
IT IS SHAMEFUL WHAT HE JUST DID THERE TONIGHT.
INSTEAD OF TELLING YOU WHAT HE WOULD DO FOR YOU, HIS CLOSING STATEMENT WAS TO ATTACK ME.
I'M GRATEFUL TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
OUR COUNTRY IS AT A CROSSROADS AND WE ARE IN A DITCH.
PRESIDENT BIDEN AND NANCY PELOSI HAVE GOTTEN US INTO A HORRIBLE SITUATION.
IF WE KEEP SENDING THE SAME PEOPLE TO WASHINGTON, WE ARE GOING TO KEEP GETTING THE SAME THING.
EXCUSES, LIES, OPEN BORDERS.
YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT MR. 100 WITH NANCY PELOSI AND JOE BIDEN 100% OF THE TIME.
HE CARES MORE ABOUT DOING THEIR BIDDING THAN WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE COUNTRY.
HE BELIEVES IN DEFENDING THE POLICE AND SPENDING MONEY TO ANSWER OUR PROBLEMS.
I BELIEVE WE MUST STOP INFLATION AND CLOSE OUR BORDER.
AND I BELIEVE WE MUST STAND WITH THE POLICE.
THE STATE TROOPERS ASSOCIATION AND EVERY POLICE ORGANIZATION HAVE ENDORSED ME.
NOT ONE HAS ENDORSED HIM.
ALL THE MONEY HE SENT THEM AND NOT ONE OF THEM STANDING BEHIND MATT CARTWRIGHT.
EVEN SCRANTON POLICE ENDORSED ME.
IF YOU THINK THIS COUNTRY IS DOING WELL, MAYBE MATT IS YOUR GUY.
IF YOU THINK WE SHOULD REPEAL THE IRS AGENTS THAT MATT VOTED FOR, I'M YOUR GUY.
IF YOU THINK WE NEED MORE BORDER PATROL AND NOT IRS, I'M YOUR GUY.
IF YOU THINK THIS COUNTRY DESERVES BETTER.
IF YOU THINK WE SHOULD RETURN TO TRADITIONAL VALUES AND IF WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF JOE BIDEN AND NANCY PELOSI, IF YOU THINK NORTHEASTERN PENNSYLVANIA CAN DO BETTER AND DESERVE AT HER, I MAKE A PROMISE TO YOU.
I WILL FIGHT EVERY DAY IN WASHINGTON AND I WILL BE PROUD TO BE YOUR CONGRESSMAN.
LARRY: THANK YOU AND MR. CARTWRIGHT.
THAT BRINGS TO AN END THIS DEBATE BETWEEN THE CANDIDATES OF THE EIGHTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.
THANKS TO OUR PANEL.
A SELECT PANEL WILL ADDRESS THE CANDIDATES FOR THE NINTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.
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