- How's the smoking coming?

- Well, I still don't have the Chantix because they will not take the food stamp thing.

- Had to prove income.

- Yes, they said-- I meant for you those papers from the hospital so you could see what-- - Is there any other kind of proof of income in a household?

- There is no income.

There's no proof of income.

What I'm saying-- the only thing we got is the food stamps.

I mean-- - Yeah.

And how much are your food stamps for the family?

- $321 a month.

- For the two of you?

- Yes.

- OK, so your breathing is still kind of bad.

- He did two X-rays at the hospital and said that my lungs are severely damaged.

It kind of was a wake-up call for me because I had never heard it put like that.

- OK-- with the COPD.

- Yes, yeah.

- How much are you smoking now?

- I would say about 3/4 of a pack, which is a cut down by a quarter of a pack, but it seems like when I'm trying to quit, all I think about is smoking.

- Sure.

It's addictive.

- Yeah, jeez.

- I've got some nicotine in the closet.

Do you want to try that?

- I do.

- OK, let me do that.

Let me show you how to do that.

So the medicine is in here.

There's a little spike in there that's got to soak in here.

So you kind of line it up, and you really have got to-- that's not far enough.

You've got to get it so it's almost like a nickel.

It's all extends out-- - In the end.

KAREN KINSELL: And then you've got to put your mouth right on it and press the gray button and suck it in.

So try that one.

You got to quit smoking.

- Yeah, I am working on that for sure.

I know I need to.

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